30,000 acres per year for trees 2024.

[manhill]

Just rolls off tongue: 'The deforestation is harming the local people' (media channel this morning)
Now, are they aware of that? Seems to me that the land is now going to produce food and jobs for the locals. I doubt the forest was producing anywhere near what it will under cultivation.
We did it and that's probably why we're here to talk about it.

 

[manhill]

Global warming's not all bad, the grass is doing ok.

 

[kiwi pom]

Know of 1 and been told of 2 other farms, all good productive cropped farms, that have been bought in the last 8 weeks in the county by non farmers to plant trees to offset thier industrial enterprises. Also heard of a farmer who planted just a few acres of trees for a grant and now he cant cut them down without planning as they have exceeded a certain diameter and the land has been changed from agricultural use to forestry/woodland or simular so he would need to try and change it back to include it back into his farm.......

I guess the farmers that sold to the industrial companies must have thought it a good idea. Driving up the price of land is a good thing if you want to sell.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Land Prices
Food Prices
Up ?

 

[roscoe erf]

flies

excellent cover for when (not if) lynx and other large predators are introduced.

not much grows under a heavy canopy except brambles

 

[serf]

We should go out at night and unplant them
As the galloway levellers did

I'm sure the wildlife will help on the unplanting front too when they plant them and shut the gate and wonder why it's just a wilderness of weeds when they return to look at them after 10 years !

 

[theboytheboy]

Plus saplings will be imported to plant this 30,000Ha p.a. bringing new diseases in. If its going to happen it should be a requirement that the trees are all sourced from within the UK!

Exactly this!

We cannot afford to risk adding more diseases!

 

[Dave6170]

How many farms are in the UK? If we all planted a ha that would be better than whole farms disappearing.
A wet corner or a shelter belt.

 

[Bald Rick]

Just out of interest, if the government meet their 30k ha planting target, it would take 7 years to cover the Isle of Wight.

Fantastic

 

[Macsky]

I want to know how many trees will kneed to be planted to replace all the Ash trees that are going to die !That is a real time disaster that government didn't give a f**k! about!

I’d like to know how many trees you’d need to plant to cancel out all the ash that the Canary volcano is kindly contributing daily just now

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

There's a lot of forestry blocks here, that have been trees one year and a dairy farm the next. Its not that hard to do but I'm guessing the UK stuff is on less productive land?

Because the only way to get a felling licence here (legally required to fell more than a few trees) is to commit to replanting them.

Why not grow all the timber that's being fed into Drax in the UK?

Because it's cheaper to import it from Carolina...

 

[hoff135]

For every acre of land that was used to grow crops will have to be replaced by imports. That means it will to shipped here instead because it has to be replaced.

They talk about trees? They are cutting down trees as fast as possible to chip for biomass boilers. The places I know of that got them fitted are being paid by what they burn. They leave the windows open and run them flat out all year round.

The government's environmental policies are a complete and utter joke

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

For every acre of land that was used to grow crops will have to be replaced by imports. That means it will to shipped here instead because it has to be replaced.

They talk about trees? They are cutting down trees as fast as possible to chip for biomass boilers. The places I know of that got them fitted are being paid by what they burn. They leave the windows open and run them flat out all year round.

The government's environmental policies are a complete and utter joke

And biomass featured heavily in the net zero strategy released this week.....

 

[serf]

I’d like to know how many trees you’d need to plant to cancel out all the ash that the Canary volcano is kindly contributing daily just now

Sums it really, it's all futile nonsense.

 

[serf]

For every acre of land that was used to grow crops will have to be replaced by imports. That means it will to shipped here instead because it has to be replaced.

They talk about trees? They are cutting down trees as fast as possible to chip for biomass boilers. The places I know of that got them fitted are being paid by what they burn. They leave the windows open and run them flat out all year round.

The government's environmental policies are a complete and utter joke

All makes sense doesn't it ......

 

[Bald Rick]

The government's environmental policies are a complete and utter joke

How dare you attack our heavily pregnant prime minister?




I completely agree.
Too many vested interested pushing their own agendas.

 

[jendan]

Just out of interest, if the government meet their 30k ha planting target, it would take 7 years to cover the Isle of Wight.

Fantastic

How many years to cover Anglesey ?

 

[glasshouse]

I should take more water with it Glasshouse.
There's currently a whole lot more cash generated from an even-aged managed softwood plantation than there is in sheep.

And saying we should be burning coal to make electricity?
Untouchable.

We know you hate trees, seeing them as tied up with wicked landlords and sitka monocrops.
But i would ask you to step back from your personal experiences, and see a broader picture.
They should be another crop we consider.
Gov would do well to listen to the comments here, and ask how to remove the obstacles to farm scale productive forestry.

Tenants cant get into forestry , all trees belong to landlord
Who is going to pay for redraining in ten yrs when govt realises its mistake?

 

[farmerm]

Google says:-
Land. The agricultural area used is 23.07 million acres (9.34 million hectares), about 70% of the land area of England. 36% of the agricultural land is croppable (arable), or 25% of the total land area.

So 30000 ha a year tree planting
It will take 311 years to cover the whole of England

so 30,000ha planting would lead to a decrease in UK farmland by 1% ever 3 years?

 

[sheepwise]

Is this a joke, where is all this land coming from once its planted that's it gone forever, a shepherd was saying this farm where he worked is getn the greener inbye ground planted and the hill ground left to go wild. I wounder what's they are paying.

Heard that even hill land suitable for planting is £5k an acre now.