3m Sumo Trio

[Gruffalo]

Ideally trailed but could possibly make a trailing kit for the right machine.
Thanks

 

[whiddy]

| Thames Valley Machinery

Not mine, but have one just like it.

 

[Two Tone]

If my neighbour didn’t hire mine, I’d give it away.
It’s the worst tool ever if you have a Blackgrass problem.

Or to put it more correctly: We didn’t have a Blackgrass problem until we started using a Sumo Trio.

Even my neighbour has begun to see the light now. So maybe I can get shot of the B thing before long.

 

[whiddy]

Perhaps you should try it with these points, https://www.apm-supplies.co.uk/Products/trioquatro---used-on-prepost-2007-models/AMP579MXP
transforms the machine in my view.

 

[Gruffalo]

| Thames Valley Machinery

Not mine, but have one just like it.

For sale ?

 

[whiddy]

Should be if not sold. Mike Hampshire owns Thames Valley Machinery, have dealt with him for 35 years.

 

[Gruffalo]

Should be if not sold. Mike Hampshire owns Thames Valley Machinery, have dealt with him for 35 years.

Ok, pm me if not
Cheers

 

[Gruffalo]

If my neighbour didn’t hire mine, I’d give it away.
It’s the worst tool ever if you have a Blackgrass problem.

Or to put it more correctly: We didn’t have a Blackgrass problem until we started using a Sumo Trio.

Even my neighbour has begun to see the light now. So maybe I can get shot of the B thing before long.

Is yours trailed ?

 

[Two Tone]

Is yours trailed ?

No. But I can assure you it wouldn’t make any difference to its Blackgrass enhancement abilities!

 

[RLC]

Two Tone, Can you explain your thoughts a bit more? Do you just mean the sumo in particular or that style of machine or min til in general??

 

[Two Tone]

Two Tone, Can you explain your thoughts a bit more? Do you just mean the sumo in particular or that style of machine or min til in general??

Yes, that style of machines.

Basically, the problem is that is mixes what seed there was from the previous year into the soil profile. Anything that is 2 inches or less away from daylight will germinate and cause a problem in the next crop.

I tried doing 3 flushes and spraying them off before drilling and it still got worse each year. It became a viscous circle.

By chance I was forced back into a ploughing situation on one field and we couldn’t believe the difference. 70% of what is buried 2” or more will die each year. That is a huge advantage insofar as that only 30% of what you might plough up, if you were stupid enough to not make sure you don’t do so, will grow.

Min-till makes the situation worse. The Blackgrass reaches a certain population and releases an enzyme that says to any other seed “we’re thick enough now. You chaps that haven’t germinated yet, hold off till next time.” So it keeps on coming back.

The more you use it the worse it gets. It took us 3 years of good ploughing to get our Blackgrass back to a low, manageable level.

To my mind, on this farm, we need to either plough and bury it properly, making sure that the following year we don’t bring it back up, or Zero-till.

Min-till wrecked this farm and now we have rescued it.
We hardly ever use Atlantis type products any more.
Roundup is only used for OSR desiccation.
Slug pellets now come by the odd bag, rather than a pallet load.

I’m almost at the stage to start Zero-tilling. But won’t invest in it till I’m sure we can still use Roundup.

 

[puntabrava]

Should be if not sold. Mike Hampshire owns Thames Valley Machinery, have dealt with him for 35 years.

Have you, good for you. Speak as you find, I would not recommend him in any shape or form, cutting out the middle you cannot buy something from a person who does not own it. I would not waste my time with him ever again.