50k tractors
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JMTHORNLEY
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Ali_Maxxum
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I hope the chap following the 60k Fendt is going to track him down and tell him one of his beacon bulbs has gone. 
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Surely he'll realise when it won't pull the skin off a rice pudding anymoreI hope the chap following the 60k Fendt is going to track him down and tell him one of his beacon bulbs has gone.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
I only quoted the reg number in case someone on here knew who's it was and could pass on the message. Hopfeully the owner doesn't condone the operation.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Very interesting!Well you can all have your real say (outside of TFF) on "fast" tractors, their brakes etc now.
The govt consultation on the implementation EU Regulation 167/2013 is now open!
Enjoy
"manufacturers are required to make repair and maintenance information available to both franchised dealers and independent repairers in a non-discriminatory way" should rattle a few manufacturers
category T’ comprises all wheeled tractors; each wheeled tractor category described in points 2 to 8 is supplemented at the end of an ‘a’ or ‘b’ index according to its design speed:
a. ‘a’ for wheeled tractors with a maximum design speed below or equal to 40 km/h;
b. ‘b’ for wheeled tractors with a maximum design speed above 40 km/h
Looks like an intention to impose a more stringent regime on 50K+ capable machines
‘category T4.1’ (high-clearance tractors) comprises tractors designed for working with high-growing crops, such as vines.They feature a raised chassis or section of chassis, enabling them to advance in parallel with the crop with left and right wheels on either side of one or more rows of the crop.They are intended for carrying or operating tools which may be fitted at the front, between the axles, at the rear or on a platform. When the tractor is in working position the ground clearance perpendicular to the crop rows exceeds 1000 mm. Where the height of the centre of
gravity of the tractor, measured in relation to the ground, using the tyres normally fitted, divided by the average minimum track of all of the axles exceeds 0.90, the maximum design speed shall not exceed 30 km/h;
This one will wind up a few self-propelled sprayer operators!
Pheasant Surprise
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Very interesting!
"manufacturers are required to make repair and maintenance information available to both franchised dealers and independent repairers in a non-discriminatory way" should rattle a few manufacturers
category T’ comprises all wheeled tractors; each wheeled tractor category described in points 2 to 8 is supplemented at the end of an ‘a’ or ‘b’ index according to its design speed:
a. ‘a’ for wheeled tractors with a maximum design speed below or equal to 40 km/h;
b. ‘b’ for wheeled tractors with a maximum design speed above 40 km/h
Looks like an intention to impose a more stringent regime on 50K+ capable machines
‘category T4.1’ (high-clearance tractors) comprises tractors designed for working with high-growing crops, such as vines.They feature a raised chassis or section of chassis, enabling them to advance in parallel with the crop with left and right wheels on either side of one or more rows of the crop.They are intended for carrying or operating tools which may be fitted at the front, between the axles, at the rear or on a platform. When the tractor is in working position the ground clearance perpendicular to the crop rows exceeds 1000 mm. Where the height of the centre of
gravity of the tractor, measured in relation to the ground, using the tyres normally fitted, divided by the average minimum track of all of the axles exceeds 0.90, the maximum design speed shall not exceed 30 km/h;
This one will wind up a few self-propelled sprayer operators!
Yup...and this little beauty:
We also intend to create an offence of registering or placing on the market a vehicle using a defeat device, or other similar functionality, to deliberately circumvent EU Regulation, irrespective of which national authority is used to obtain type approval. Our intention is to make such an offence applicable to any, and all, elements of the supply chain - the manufacturer, importer or dealer/ distributor
- 1.14 The EU Regulation is clear that using a “defeat device” to circumvent the provisions of the Regulation is an offence. This term includes a device that senses that a vehicle is undergoing a regulatory test and modifies its behaviour accordingly, or a device that allows uncontrolled operation outside of the parameters that are known to be used during regulatory testing.
- 1.15 Although each case would be considered on its own facts, our intention is to fine the supplier of a vehicle that is supplied in the UK and which uses a defeat device or similar functionality. The fine would be calculated on a per vehicle basis.
Edit - Definitely say goodbye to dealer re-maps.....
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seedman stains
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Edit - Definitely say goodbye to dealer re-maps.....what about these folks that adjust the mileage on cars cant think of the phrase perhaps they will come up some jargon that gets around this on remaps
What about a TFF competition.
What about a TFF competition.
Corporate_Slave
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I believe the term is "where law permits" on the road speed on any vehicle. be it passenger car or Ag machine.
It's all well and good regulations trying to ban dealer remaps, but it's about policing them. The people who map these things are very clever and some of these system require the main dealers doing alot of checking to detect them.
It wont stop re-maps at all.
It's all well and good regulations trying to ban dealer remaps, but it's about policing them. The people who map these things are very clever and some of these system require the main dealers doing alot of checking to detect them.
It wont stop re-maps at all.
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It could be argued that a good quality remap does not constitute a "cheat device" unless it significantly increase emissions from the factory standard. "Boost boxes" almost certainly would be though as most crudely increase fueling across the rev range leading to more smoke.
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Corporate_Slave
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The terminology is vague intentionally, it will help both sides.
I think if/when the day come when tractors need emissions testing, many operators will be shocked how many tractors out here which have EGR or SCR which aren't compliment with the regulations. Going to be spending money on new particulate filters plus more.
I think if/when the day come when tractors need emissions testing, many operators will be shocked how many tractors out here which have EGR or SCR which aren't compliment with the regulations. Going to be spending money on new particulate filters plus more.
seedman stains
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The terminology is vague intentionally, it will help both sides.
And how many meetings did it take to come up with this solution, no doubt lots of late nights and bills footed at everyones expense to get where?
And how many meetings did it take to come up with this solution, no doubt lots of late nights and bills footed at everyones expense to get where?
Corporate_Slave
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I presume so, but that is politics, no doubt the manufacturer have put pressure on the politicians and comprises are made.
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Where is this cheat software, have VW launched a tractor range?
Ali_Maxxum
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Only way I know it works is say for example, 40k tractor ordered, so in top gear it only revs to say 1800rpm, dealer plugs it in, plays with it, lets it rev flat out in top gear, meaning it can do 50k+. Without spending the X£££ on proper front brakes and air brakes, etc....
Suckndiesel
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But do many people do that? I would have thought it more people buying 2nd hand 40k ones wanting to do that
Ali_Maxxum
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Plenty. Know of a whole fleet of tractors that all do 55k with no front brakes, all on hydraulic trailer brakes.
holywell farmer
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What make of tractor
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- Ceredigion, wales
That's really not a good idea. I bet they don't keep them long because the rear brakes will disintegrate eventually and the debris will be floating about in the transmission and getting into everything.