A few workshop jobs.

[colhonk]

What happens if you need to go the other way around a field? (arable farmer so do not know about fencing )

 

[Larel]

What happens if you need to go the other way around a field? (arable farmer so do not know about fencing )

You have to reverse if you want to go in the opposite direction, but thinking about it no reason why the clamping mechanism couldn't be switched round, might have a look at that.

 

[Larel]

Lovely drill. Handy to be able to swing it out like that.

Its a bit of an antique, I bought it in a sealed bid auction of redundant tooling at my work. I put a cheeky value of about the price of a good quality bench top drill press at the time and it fell to me. Its 3 phase running of the phase convertor in the background of the photo. It will only run in slow speed on the convertor, but for the size of drills I use in it that's not an issue.
Lucky it does swing out, I had planned to drill those holes after it was welded up because I was going to use the magbase, but I didn't have the correct sized rotabroach! Would have been tricky to drill in Standard drill press.

 

[Larel]

Sneaked a hour in the shed after work tonight.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Word of warning , ............
Local chap put his Scot fencer on loader brackets and used for the first time on what was actually a fairly new loader, not a lightweight one either, and when pulling up a run ..he twisted the loader frame /arms went out of line and it was written off by his insurance company , true story .

 

[Larel]

Word of warning , ............
Local chap put his Scot fencer on loader brackets and used for the first time on what was actually a fairly new loader, not a lightweight one either, and when pulling up a run ..he twisted the loader frame /arms went out of line and it was written off by his insurance company , true story .

Thanks that's worth bearing in mind, maybe i'll weld on an A frame and put it on the lift! I have used one on the loader before but I only nipped the rylock a bit with the quickfencer, then I put the clamps and strainrite on it to pull it up fully. It is offset a lot so I can imagine it will put quite a turning moment on the loader frame.

 

[fermerboy]

Word of warning , ............
Local chap put his Scot fencer on loader brackets and used for the first time on what was actually a fairly new loader, not a lightweight one either, and when pulling up a run ..he twisted the loader frame /arms went out of line and it was written off by his insurance company , true story .

Jeez that's not saying much for the loader. I'd hope that any loader I have could take all the tractor has got.

Hope I don't find out otherwise!

 

[Binc]

Jeez that's not saying much for the loader. I'd hope that any loader I have could take all the tractor has got.

Hope I don't find out otherwise!

Fine pulling straight on maybe but, if there was a skew to the tractor there's no real triangulation in a loader frame is there?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Jeez that's not saying much for the loader. I'd hope that any loader I have could take all the tractor has got.

Hope I don't find out otherwise!

Loader is well designed to take up down and straight forward and back work not a twisting action like one of them could potentially put on it.

problem with using quick fencer s and straining right up with them is that hard stapling is then on the cards .

far easier to make a simple wire holder and unroller after fixinging wire around one strainer then unroll wire to the other strainer on the run and fix around as per, then use clamps to pull up wire no hard stapling at all.
That's what we do.
infact when we use clipex there's no or rarely staples used at all.

 

[Larel]

Loader is well designed to take up down and straight forward and back work not a twisting action like one of them could potentially put on it.

problem with using quick fencer s and straining right up with them is that hard stapling is then on the cards .

far easier to make a simple wire holder and unroller after fixinging wire around one strainer then unroll wire to the other strainer on the run and fix around as per, then use clamps to pull up wire no hard stapling at all.
That's what we do.
infact when we use clipex there's no or rarely staples used at all.

On the newer ones there’s a clamp arrangement at this end marked on the photo below which allows you to push it up to a strainer and unspool and wrap round and tie off without hard stapling (the same as you’d do with a clamp and strinrite). There’s a forum member close to me who doesn’t know it yet but will be getting a visit from me in the near future to check out that particular design.

 

[stroller]

No idea how these work but if you're going to wind it up tight can't you put some type of ground anchor in, similar to the ones they use in forestry winches?

 

[Bury the Trash]

On the newer ones there’s a clamp arrangement at this end marked on the photo below which allows you to push it up to a strainer and unspool and wrap round and tie off without hard stapling (the same as you’d do with a clamp and strinrite). There’s a forum member close to me who doesn’t know it yet but will be getting a visit from me in the near future to check out that particular design.
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You're a good thoughtful engineer and i like threads like these i just thought it was worth mentioning .

just a further note to Fermerboy to illistrate the point in a different way ..is that when quick fencers are on the 3pl the tractors (well adjusted )linkage stabilisers will be taking the brunt of the sideways pulling force of course .

 

[fermerboy]

Loader is well designed to take up down and straight forward and back work not a twisting action like one of them could potentially put on it.

problem with using quick fencer s and straining right up with them is that hard stapling is then on the cards .

far easier to make a simple wire holder and unroller after fixinging wire around one strainer then unroll wire to the other strainer on the run and fix around as per, then use clamps to pull up wire no hard stapling at all.
That's what we do.
infact when we use clipex there's no or rarely staples used at all.

You're a good thoughtful engineer and i like threads like these i just thought it was worth mentioning .

just a further note to Fermerboy to illistrate the point in a different way ..is that when quick fencers are on the 3pl the tractors (well adjusted )linkage stabilisers will be taking the brunt of the sideways pulling force of course .

I take the point about sideways forces, and the twisting force, etc.

And I believe you totally no argument there, but if I were to to be mucking out a cattle shed with say 120-140hp and a 7 or 8ft muck fork on the front, or levelling out a heap of soil and was only using one side of the fork/bucket I'd be expecting the tractor to lose traction/lift a wheel before the loader twisted the frame or brackets off. Ideally that would never happen, but sometimes you end up with a lop sided bucket full. Obviously if someone was to hit something at speed with the full weight of the tractor then the loader couldn't be expected to take that sort of force.
I have never used one of those quick fencer machines, but I must be missing something about how much pressure they put on a machine, Id have thought the tractor would pull round sideways or spin out before bending something.

Anyway well done Larel on the project, it looks good, this is one of my favourite threads on here.

And as an aside I hate hard stapled fencing always comes back to bite you sometime later.

 

[Larel]

Some more cutting and welding this evening. The caps came from online, company called Kite in Edinburgh, very prompt delivery.

 

[Larel]

A pair of big dongs.

 

[deere 6600]

A pair rod big dongs.View attachment 1096325View attachment 1096326

Top job

 

[Larel]

Handles and pins. Tonight. Takes a surprising amount of time. A bit of plate in the bottom and maybe a flash over with the grinder to get the weld spatter cleaned off and it might be time for the paint brush.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Are you making a sleeve for the rolls of wire?

 

[Larel]

Are you making a sleeve for the rolls of wire?

At sometime I may do, but will need to find appropriate sized pipe. The unit I borrowed and used previously didn't have sleeves and worked fine. When on the loader you can lay the rolls flat and tilt the machine over and push the pins into the centre of the rolls and crowd back so loading them on with no manual handling. From what I've seen from photos online the sleeves have a lifting point on the top allowing you to lift the rolls of net with a loader and lower onto the pins.

 

[Fendt516profi]

At sometime I may do, but will need to find appropriate sized pipe. The unit I borrowed and used previously didn't have sleeves and worked fine. When on the loader you can lay the rolls flat and tilt the machine over and push the pins into the centre of the rolls and crowd back so loading them on with no manual handling. From what I've seen from photos online the sleeves have a lifting point on the top allowing you to lift the rolls of net with a loader and lower onto the pins.

Yes I don't have a sleeve but as it says on the quick fencer website i think the bigger rolls would unroll easier sat on a sleeve with a big disc on the bottom