A game changer. Novel proteins are here. NOW

[Cowabunga]

Just launched at the CES Show is Impossible Food's new alternative 'meat' product. This is the first of very many likely to be launched in the next few years and production will be scaled up to replace a significant proportion of both traditional meats and milk.

 

[Johngee]

It says it's made out of plants, but doesn't say which plants and what chemical processes are required to manufacture the product. Anyhow whatever plants are used I bet they're not ones that will grow in West Wales!

 

[milkloss]

I know a guy into this replacement protein stunt from a scientific point of view and I'm surprised how much his 'inventions' rely on farming to make the products he intends to develop. The latest one is producing milk without a cow, same type of inputs etc but just no cow involved. Whether it's even possible I don't know but interesting to hear how he wishes to use silage, cereals etc to produce the milk so there will still be a place for regular farming.

the skeptic in me thinks all this meat free, electric car, recycling and clean air push is actually about big business and is the next big earner for them because they've mostly lost the innovative edge for products that had big profits.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Is it really a novel protein?

Its not a lab grow 'meat'. Its a veggie burger made from plants and GM yeast and made to look like meat.

Will it even be legal in the EU at the moment under current GM rules?

 

[shearerlad]

@milkloss
Your second paragraph is spot on. The underlying truth behind this is big business and money

 

[SteveHants]

It's a novel "protein", I wonder what percentage of it is actually protein?

 

[curlietailz]

Apparently according to the BBC the impossible pork is made using a molecule called HEME which is found in plants but also found in real meat

 

[Cowabunga]

It says it's made out of plants, but doesn't say which plants and what chemical processes are required to manufacture the product. Anyhow whatever plants are used I bet they're not ones that will grow in West Wales!

Probably either vat-grown yeasts or that green algae I mentioned yesterday, which grows in my cow's water troughs and stagnant pools around the slurry pit.

 

[Cowabunga]

It's a novel "protein", I wonder what percentage of it is actually protein?

Nothing stopping it being over 100%, just like urea. Protein is basically nitrogen.

 

[curlietailz]

Wikipedia says Heme is an iron ion holding frame thing that Impossible Foods are generating from soya root and highly synthesising and multiplying in yeast vats

Can yeast be considered an organism??

 

[hendrebc]

More manufactured crap that will make people ill. We are still the same people as our ancestors from 10,000 years ago which chased animals with a stick and a rock. Try asking person from back then to eat something like that and they would laugh at you. We are quickly becoming what a pug is to a wolf.
I read somewhere on FB I think about the oestrogenic levels in these impossible burgers and it is about the same level as a woman's contraceptive pill. No wonder there is declining fertility in people. Oh and if you eat them you will grow man boobs. I'll pass thanks.

 

[Cowabunga]

About half an hour ago I wrote this I another topic...

the skeptic in me thinks all this meat free, electric car, recycling and clean air push is actually about big business and is the next big earner for them because they've mostly lost the innovative edge for products that had big profits.

Big business is trying to move food production from farms into factories, literally cutting out the 'grass roots'. Bypassing the traditional primary producer, the farmer and his land completely.

 

[shearerlad]

Oh and if you eat them you will grow man boobs. I'll pass thanks.

That would make long winter nights a bit more “entertaining”

 

[milkloss]

About half an hour ago I wrote this I another topic...


Big business is trying to move food production from farms into factories, literally cutting out the 'grass roots'. Bypassing the traditional primary producer, the farmer and his land completely.

As I said, if we are smart about it perhaps farming will have a part to play in this new 'food'. If I still grew silage etc and fed it to a machine that produced milk on site I think that could be quite good. Fck, I could even be like an arable farmer: cover the clamps, switch it off and bugger off skiing several times a year!

 

[hendrebc]

About half an hour ago I wrote this I another topic...


Big business is trying to move food production from farms into factories, literally cutting out the 'grass roots'. Bypassing the traditional primary producer, the farmer and his land completely.

Yes!!! Exactly this it's all it is. And then they get to sell supplements and medicine to all the sickly people that eat their crap food. It's a goldmine for big chemical and processed food companies.

 

[Cowabunga]

More manufactured crap that will make people ill. We are still the same people as our ancestors from 10,000 years ago which chased animals with a stick and a rock. Try asking person from back then to eat something like that and they would laugh at you. We are quickly becoming what a pug is to a wolf.
I read somewhere on FB I think about the oestrogenic levels in these impossible burgers and it is about the same level as a woman's contraceptive pill. No wonder there is declining fertility in people. Oh and if you eat them you will grow man boobs. I'll pass thanks.

That's certainly one counter attack, as long as it is true. Can't see who will have done the tests on a food that has only been officially launched today.

 

[Cowabunga]

As I said, if we are smart about it perhaps farming will have a part to play in this new 'food'. If I still grew silage etc and fed it to a machine that produced milk on site I think that could be quite good. Fck, I could even be like an arable farmer: cover the clamps, switch it off and bugger off skiing several times a year!

They will make sure that the raw material is produced in their own shed, you can bet on it. But it is a nice thought. Not sure how I'll harvest grass off my steeper land though. Perhaps all of that could be spoilt by planting trees.

 

[DrWazzock]

About half an hour ago I wrote this I another topic...


Big business is trying to move food production from farms into factories, literally cutting out the 'grass roots'. Bypassing the traditional primary producer, the farmer and his land completely.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Eliminate the ethical concerns over eating animals. Don't need land to produce food. Rewild it all. Cut out the inefficiencies, antibiotic usage, pesticides etc.

Ultimately biochemical factories sucking in carbon dioxide, nitrogen water and energy and pumping out carbohydrates and protein that can be eaten.

What will it taste and feel like? Anything you like. A lot of flavourings are already synthetic.

Will there be side effects and unforeseen consequences? Probably. Who knows?

 

[Cowabunga]

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Eliminate the ethical concerns over eating animals. Don't need land to produce food. Rewild it all. Cut out the inefficiencies, antibiotic usage, pesticides etc.

Ultimately biochemical factories sucking in carbon dioxide, nitrogen water and energy and pumping out carbohydrates and protein that can be eaten.

What will it taste and feel like? Anything you like. A lot of flavourings are already synthetic.

Will there be side effects and unforeseen consequences? Probably. Who knows?

There will inevitably be teething troubles but that is the way things are going as I see it.

 

[hendrebc]

That's certainly one counter attack, as long as it is true. Can't see who will have done the tests on a food that has only been officially launched today.

It was the impossible burger that the research was done on I think I'll see if I can find a link.
It's not the only counter attack though. We need to push natural diets like people should be eating. We have been bred to thrive on meat and natural plant foods not chemicals and manufactured slop made to look like the real thing. We aren't really meant to eat grains like bread and pasta even and that has become a staple food. It's causing all kinds of problems and scientists are only just realising how much problems it's causing.