A Rant!

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
On aggression, I think the point is animals repeat what has worked for them. My weaned foals will often turn their backsides towards me an attempt a kick. Usually harmless but not something to be encouraged so I'm ready for it and they get a tap on the butt with a stick administered to coincide with the event. They never try that again! It is not a good idea to let a horse know it is stronger than we are -- and I am sure that must apply to other livestock.

Puppies growing up in a litter usually have good bite inhibition. They bite a mate and get bitten back, so they don't do that too often. The biters are often single pups who haven't been taught by their owners or siblings that biting is counter productive.

So, yes, sometimes it can be a management problem. But not always.
 

Stuart J

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Mixed Farmer
Location
UK
@waterbuffalofarmer
I've watched each episode and I couldn't say that in my opinion they have made them appear aggressive.
Certainly no worse than a regular cow.

He was gorged by one on the past, that's a fact. They can be aggressive when newly calved, I'd imagine that's pretty factual too.
Of course they'll add dramatic music at certain times, it's a tv programme


To all those suggesting that he's not up to much as a farmer e.g. @gone up the hill , it must be bloody fatastic being so perfect.
You are seeing snippets filmed over the course of a year. Not sure if you could say you are seeing enough to form an well rounded opinion on his on any of there farming prowess.
 
Location
Devon
@waterbuffalofarmer
I've watched each episode and I couldn't say that in my opinion they have made them appear aggressive.
Certainly no worse than a regular cow.

He was gorged by one on the past, that's a fact. They can be aggressive when newly calved, I'd imagine that's pretty factual too.
Of course they'll add dramatic music at certain times, it's a tv programme


To all those suggesting that he's not up to much as a farmer e.g. @gone up the hill , it must be bloody fatastic being so perfect.
You are seeing snippets filmed over the course of a year. Not sure if you could say you are seeing enough to form an well rounded opinion on his on any of there farming prowess.

The calve wouldn't suckle and the chap just gave up and said : Oh well doesn't look good for it and that was all he was bothered.

We all get calves/ lambs like that but there are other ways to get milk into them if they refuse to suckle, that calve looked very weak and leaving it any longer without milk would be a one way ticket 9 out of 10 times.
 

Stuart J

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
UK
The calve wouldn't suckle and the chap just gave up and said : Oh well doesn't look good for it and that was all he was bothered.

We all get calves/ lambs like that but there are other ways to get milk into them if they refuse to suckle, that calve looked very weak and leaving it any longer without milk would be a one way ticket 9 out of 10 times.
Were you there?
Can you be sure he hadn't been trying for 3 hours previously?
No, you can't.
 

Happy

Member
Location
Scotland
What a bunch of moaning Minnie's;)
I think to have a programme like this is a great advert for our industry and the makers of it have done a great job in selecting such a varied type of livestock farmers to follow.
It's not made for us farming 'experts' in mind. Going by the programme you would think Steven Mitchell and his stockman had never had to calve a cow or have a calf that wouldn't suck before. Anyone that runs stock would know that wouldn't be the case but it gives a bit more drama and suspense not to mention understanding of the situation farmers find themselves in during the course of doing the job.
I actually think Steven Mitchell comes across as one of the best contributors along with the Roan Wives at explaining what they are doing and why.
 

Sackofnuts

Member
Location
Cumbria
What a bunch of moaning Minnie's;)
I think to have a programme like this is a great advert for our industry and the makers of it have done a great job in selecting such a varied type of livestock farmers to follow.
It's not made for us farming 'experts' in mind. Going by the programme you would think Steven Mitchell and his stockman had never had to calve a cow or have a calf that wouldn't suck before. Anyone that runs stock would know that wouldn't be the case but it gives a bit more drama and suspense not to mention understanding of the situation farmers find themselves in during the course of doing the job.
I actually think Steven Mitchell comes across as one of the best contributors along with the Roan Wives at explaining what they are doing and why.
Well said
 

Weasel

Member
Location
in the hills
The calve wouldn't suckle and the chap just gave up and said : Oh well doesn't look good for it and that was all he was bothered.

We all get calves/ lambs like that but there are other ways to get milk into them if they refuse to suckle, that calve looked very weak and leaving it any longer without milk would be a one way ticket 9 out of 10 times.


Agree he should of tubed it colostrum quicker
 

GenuineRisk

Member
Location
Somerset
As in all these 'reality' programmes, you have to remember it's the editor who has the real power and who makes the big bucks and it's their view of what farming's all about that influences what the viewer ultimately ends up seeing. More informative stuff definitely lies on the cutting room floor than we ever get to see and you don't get to see unbroken footage much, either.
 

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