African Swine Fever

[Chris F]

Post from the Defra Twitter account today:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1156837124936744960

 

[Longlowdog]

Post from the Defra Twitter account today:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1156837124936744960

It's coming. If customs can't stop bush meat they can't keep this out.

 

[le bon paysan]

Its confirmed in the wild boar population on the border with Belgium and France. France have put up a fence like the Maginot line to stop the boar crossing.
Hope it stops them better than the Germans.

 

[Chris F]

I think the whole reason Defra are telling us is because they think it’s coming too.

 

[matthew]

I think the whole reason Defra are telling us is because they think it’s coming too.

If Defra are telling us this, it’s most likely already here.

 

[Longlowdog]

If Defra are telling us this, it’s most likely already here.

Plenty of hunting companies still advertising to British Hunters. Living 200 yards from a pig farm I haven't dared chase piggies for a while.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

If Defra are telling us this, it’s most likely already here.

The virus has been found here (Northern Ireland iirc). Just thankfully not in pigs.
Looks like that has spurred the authorities into action at long last.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

If Defra are telling us this, it’s most likely already here.

The virus has been found here (Northern Ireland iirc). Just thankfully not in pigs.
Looks like that has spurred the authorities into action at long last.

 

[NZDan]

Probably the best thing that has happened to the red meat sector, lamb in particular, in a bloody long time. If the UK can get out of EU and get a trade deal with China, you'll be selling lambs like hot cakes.

 

[hendrebc]

Probably the best thing that has happened to the red meat sector, lamb in particular, in a bloody long time. If the UK can get out of EU and get a trade deal with China, you'll be selling lambs like hot cakes.

I cant really like that post because its going to be sh!t for anyone who keeps pigs but you are right. I read some predictions somewhere that sheep in particular could jump significantly like they did in about 2008 and from what i remember lamb went from being about £1/kilo to being worth £1.50 a kilo over a short time. I cant remember what beef was then though but over 10 years later neither are much more if they are at all. Lets hope the chinese are keen.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I cant really like that post because its going to be sh!t for anyone who keeps pigs but you are right. I read some predictions somewhere that sheep in particular could jump significantly like they did in about 2008 and from what i remember lamb went from being about £1/kilo to being worth £1.50 a kilo over a short time. I cant remember what beef was then though but over 10 years later neither are much more if they are at all. Lets hope the chinese are keen.

Don't hold your breath. We in the pig sector have been waiting for months for our prices to react to the Chinese situation. It has gone up over 20% on mainland Europe, only 6% here. Someone, somewhere is taking the pee.

 

[hendrebc]

Don't hold your breath. We in the pig sector have been waiting for months for our prices to react to the Chinese situation. It has gone up over 20% on mainland Europe, only 6% here. Someone, somewhere is taking the pee.

Yes i have read that somewhere too it does definetly sound like someone somewhere is making a lot of money off your backs. There is only one way we will know what happens and that is to wait and see.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Yes i have read that somewhere too it does definetly sound like someone somewhere is making a lot of money off your backs. There is only one way we will know what happens and that is to wait and see.

One stock exchange quoted processor has already posted "excellent" results for the second quarter. Shites.

 

[hendrebc]

One stock exchange quoted processor has already posted "excellent" results for the second quarter. Shites.

We might have more of a chance with sheep and beef because there are still quite a lot sold live through aucions and if they want them they will have to pay for them. We can hope at least

 

[topground]

We might have more of a chance with sheep and beef because there are still quite a lot sold live through aucions and if they want them they will have to pay for them. We can hope at least

And therin lies the answer, if the beef and sheep sector are daft enough to sign up for the vertical integration of the supply chain that the supermakets crave then we get what we deserve.
Whole life assurance and supplying the processor direct will see all primary producers dancing to the tune of the supermarket robber barons.
Unless you want to be a serf in the futue sell live to keep competition in the market place. Goodman in Ireland and increasingly in the UK has shown what the demise of live auctions in the UK will deliver.

 

[mwj]

When the herds in China were depopulated they were processed for consumption. That put a lot of pork in storage that is still being consumed. The sharp need for increased imports will be in the near future.

 

[hendrebc]

Are there many pigs sold through live auctions in europe? That might make a difference with the price difference between here and there?

 

[NZDan]

Don't hold your breath. We in the pig sector have been waiting for months for our prices to react to the Chinese situation. It has gone up over 20% on mainland Europe, only 6% here. Someone, somewhere is taking the pee.

I'm beginning to smell something fishy with UK prices, all your prices seem to be tanked at the very bottom. At the way you're going the best thing that will ever happen is brexcit, it's not like your prices can really get much worse relative to the rest of the world.

 

[Danllan]

Its confirmed in the wild boar population on the border with Belgium and France. France have put up a fence like the Maginot line to stop the boar crossing.
Hope it stops them better than the Germans.

Does the fence have 'ends'?

 

[PSQ]

Does the fence have 'ends'?

It will certainly have lots of gaps where the road network passes through...