All things Dairy

[Headless chicken]

Various reason, I agree far more expensive than normal. Milk ureas are still REALLY REALLY low, so feeding an 18% cake, plus acid buffer, plus megalac to keep the energy up as grass was.looking sorry for itself before all this rain and sun, going to drop the megalac as grass is back to decent quality and I'm getting the hang of grazing now

megalac should never have been a consideration at your yield level, who are you buying cake through? Are they put with you fortnightly/ monthly to sample grass and look at cows? Acid buff we have used when we were feeding some butriicy sh!t silage possibly had It’s place with very lush spring grass but not sure that would be needed.

I think you need to forget buying youngstock if that was a suggestion earlier and I’d seriously question the tanker. We started with no machinery, added a bit as we’ve gone but they are a total money sink.

 

[Martyn]

Various reason, I agree far more expensive than normal. Milk ureas are still REALLY REALLY low, so feeding an 18% cake, plus acid buffer, plus megalac to keep the energy up as grass was.looking sorry for itself before all this rain and sun, going to drop the megalac as grass is back to decent quality and I'm getting the hang of grazing now

If you want to go through some basic nutrition the PM us, but seriously unless your aiming for 9000l plus there should be no need for most of what you have listed.

 

[Jdunn55]

megalac should never have been a consideration at your yield level, who are you buying cake through? Are they put with you fortnightly/ monthly to sample grass and look at cows? Acid buff we have used when we were feeding some butriicy sh!t silage possibly had It’s place with very lush spring grass but not sure that would be needed.

The megalac defintely helped st the time, yields jumped 4.5 litres a cow, right now I don't think it's needed tho

 

[Jdunn55]

If you want to go through some basic nutrition the PM us, but seriously unless your aiming for 9000l plus there should be no need for most of what you have listed.

That is what I want from most of my third plus calvers and they're capable if doing it bar one or two, the only issue is my heifers and low yielders are also having it and they don't need it

 

[Headless chicken]

The megalac defintely helped st the time, yields jumped 4.5 litres a cow, right now I don't think it's needed tho

who suggested it? Did you work out your rations etc before including it?

 

[Jdunn55]

who suggested it? Did you work out your rations etc before including it?

My feed rep, I've known him for years and trust him, hes not a typical sales rep in that he doesnt want to screw me over to earn himself extra commission. Hes done me various diets as weve been playing around trying to get the cows to do better.
Hes been out and done loads of sampling for me along with another rep from the same company who is cow signals trained

 

[Cowmansam]

My feed rep, I've known him for years and trust him, hes not a typical sales rep in that he doesnt want to screw me over to earn himself extra commission. Hes done me various diets as weve been playing around trying to get the cows to do better.
Hes been out and done loads of sampling for me along with another rep from the same company who is cow signals trained

He’s a sales rep on commission there all out to make the most they can just because he’s nice doesn’t mean he’s not having your pants down

 

[Beef farmer]

Be blooming careful you don't get caught in the middle ground off high inputs low outputs.
There is a wealth of knowledge on here and locally to you in the southwest, go and visit some farms and learn.
And I don't just mean farms that have pedigree cows. see how other people do it.

 

[Beef farmer]

My feed rep, I've known him for years and trust him, hes not a typical sales rep in that he doesnt want to screw me over to earn himself extra commission. Hes done me various diets as weve been playing around trying to get the cows to do better.
Hes been out and done loads of sampling for me along with another rep from the same company who is cow signals trained

He would screw you as hard as he could just weather he uses lube or not

 

[Farmer Keith]

My feed rep, I've known him for years and trust him, hes not a typical sales rep in that he doesnt want to screw me over to earn himself extra commission. Hes done me various diets as weve been playing around trying to get the cows to do better.
Hes been out and done loads of sampling for me along with another rep from the same company who is cow signals trained

he’s chasing yield, you need to be focused on profit, the two don’t go hand in hand.

 

[Ducati899]

do they take your pants aswell?

Pants down and aim for penetration I should think

 

[Jdunn55]

Be blooming careful you don't get caught in the middle ground off high inputs low outputs.
There is a wealth of knowledge on here and locally to you in the southwest, go and visit some farms and learn.
And I don't just mean farms that have pedigree cows. see how other people do it.

That's one of the things I wish I did before starting up, I just didnt have time as everything came together in a massive rush

 

[Ducati899]

Various reason, I agree far more expensive than normal. Milk ureas are still REALLY REALLY low, so feeding an 18% cake, plus acid buffer, plus megalac to keep the energy up as grass was.looking sorry for itself before all this rain and sun, going to drop the megalac as grass is back to decent quality and I'm getting the hang of grazing now

I’m on a 18% with megalac added in and it’s no where near the £350 you’re quoting

 

[Beef farmer]

That's one of the things I wish I did before starting up, I just didnt have time as everything came together in a massive rush

You've relief milkers 6 milkings a week. Jump in your car on Wednesday, we've a discussion group here 10am, you'll not learn a jot from.me I doubt, but there will I assume be some good dairy farmers coming. Its a foreign/devon group so don't know many...

 

[In the pit]

There should be a jdunn55 thread started cos it would be the biggest laugh going but also the most frightening

 

[Beef farmer]

There should be a jdunn55 thread started cos it would be the biggest laugh going but also the most frightening

Steady up.
Help and guidance not humiliation

 

[Rossymons]

There should be a jdunn55 thread started cos it would be the biggest laugh going but also the most frightening

He needs help not lampooning. We're only offering advice and help because we've done what he's doing or worse.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

There should be a jdunn55 thread started cos it would be the biggest laugh going but also the most frightening

No need of that we have all had to start somewhere.

 

[Martyn]

We all want @Jdunn55 thriving and in business, most of us can comment because we have made and still make mistakes ourselves. The issue is the magin is small and hard and often mistakes can take months/years to turn around.

 

[In the pit]

He is in a very scary position of wanting high yields from a spring calving base and got the blinkers on trying to get there
There are some fantastic discussion groups in the south west of which I was a member back in the day and getting one on his farm would push him in the right direction but he would have to have massive shoulders to take the criticism, having been there.