All things Dairy

frederick

Member
Location
south west
This is where the inflexibility of farming off the calendar comes home to roost, should be spread when ground conditions allow not when the window opens up, although in this instance there’s not been too many opportunity’s since last July!
That's one of the reasons that the grant needs a covered store. The 6 months storage will always be much nearer to 6 months even if you have 200% of rainfall for that period.

The issue this year is 4 months storage is far closer to 2.5 with all the rain collected which is why so many have reached crunch points.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Credit where it's due, this is very nice, a Wyke farm product for breakfast!
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Location
West Wales
What do you do if you’ve got 6 months slurry storage but come April 1st the tower is full and the fields are so saturated you couldn't legally spread slurry on them, and there’s rain forecast every day for the next 2 weeks?

Will 7 months slurry storage become the required standard down the line?

Asking for a friend.
Dilution is the solution to pollution. Spread it thinly, inject where possible, try to just take the dirty water and not stir it, spread in places as far away from water as possible with as little risk as possible attempt to liaise with neighbours so your not all doing it at the same time.
 

Bert Jansch

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Lancashire
It’s been the hardest winter for slurry I’ve experienced. Managed to get empty last time it was “dry” in September. Took around 30 tankers (1400gallon) of water out in 2 spells before Christmas. Water only came out brown on the last couple of loads. I have one meadow which we drained in 2012. A couple of dry days and you can travel. Snuck on again in February with a few loads. Managed to sneak the odd load out here and there, but, put it this way, I’m dying to get on with the roller!
How about you, you managed to get by?
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
It’s been the hardest winter for slurry I’ve experienced. Managed to get empty last time it was “dry” in September. Took around 30 tankers (1400gallon) of water out in 2 spells before Christmas. Water only came out brown on the last couple of loads. I have one meadow which we drained in 2012. A couple of dry days and you can travel. Snuck on again in February with a few loads. Managed to sneak the odd load out here and there, but, put it this way, I’m dying to get on with the roller!
How about you, you managed to get by?
I’ve pumped over a million gallons into my neighbours lagoon since the 2nd week of December,full up again now☹️only rainwater in my pit is what falls on it,all yards roofed.
 

DairyNerd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Went to a talk a few nights ago with the EA officers. Whether to spread or let spill over came up; depends on factors like where it overspill to and practicalities around spreading. One officer actually advised someone to blow it over the hedge as couldn't travel on fields and lagoon was 30ft from watercourse. Basically talk to them, done on case by case
 

Bert Jansch

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Lancashire
I’ve pumped over a million gallons into my neighbours lagoon since the 2nd week of December,full up again now☹️only rainwater in my pit is what falls on it,all yards roofed.
It’s on your mind all the time isn’t it? Hard work☹️. A problem I have is, with the store being at the end of the building, it gets all the rain that hits the gable end, which is West facing🙄. Needs catching really.
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
Went to a talk a few nights ago with the EA officers. Whether to spread or let spill over came up; depends on factors like where it overspill to and practicalities around spreading. One officer actually advised someone to blow it over the hedge as couldn't travel on fields and lagoon was 30ft from watercourse. Basically talk to them, done on case by case
Had my Ea inspection and officers both told me to contact them saying where and when spreading (including rates)rather than jetting.

I was bothered at the time of inspection regarding freeboard because I was well into the 750mm at the time,they were quite complimentary and said it was the best they’d seen recently,most had millimetres to spare,one thing they could see we’d had a very wet time.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Usually empty the storage in Sept / Oct which gets us through the winter
Ground conditions were poor then so spread half rate to minimise run off. Got to be a chance in Nov, - wrong.
Result we were full in January. Contractor was reluctant to spread but gave us the email of the head man at EA in Newcastle.
Sent a map showing fields away from watercourses, explaining the situation.
Helpful email back within 12 hours,, saying thanks for contacting us, understand the situation, do your best to prevent run off.
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Of course the ea will do everything they can to avoid an overflow and pollution so less than satisfactory spreading will reduce that risk.

However expect that to be recorded in a book somewhere and when your next visit comes around and you claim 4 months storage that storage will be seriously questioned with evidence supplied by yourselves.

The claim the weather has been extreme won't last for long. The water companies are running out of mileage on this faster than we are. We will be better keeping our discussions quiet and resolving them actively with the ea. Rather than it being a public discussion of incompetence in the press like it is for the water companies. We will be next.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Of course the ea will do everything they can to avoid an overflow and pollution so less than satisfactory spreading will reduce that risk.

However expect that to be recorded in a book somewhere and when your next visit comes around and you claim 4 months storage that storage will be seriously questioned with evidence supplied by yourselves.

The claim the weather has been extreme won't last for long. The water companies are running out of mileage on this faster than we are. We will be better keeping our discussions quiet and resolving them actively with the ea. Rather than it being a public discussion of incompetence in the press like it is for the water companies. We will be next.

Spread away, legally of course, don't cause any pollution and carry on. Contacting them for any reason unless absolutely essential is just putting you on their radar.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Of course the ea will do everything they can to avoid an overflow and pollution so less than satisfactory spreading will reduce that risk.

However expect that to be recorded in a book somewhere and when your next visit comes around and you claim 4 months storage that storage will be seriously questioned with evidence supplied by yourselves.

The claim the weather has been extreme won't last for long. The water companies are running out of mileage on this faster than we are. We will be better keeping our discussions quiet and resolving them actively with the ea. Rather than it being a public discussion of incompetence in the press like it is for the water companies. We will be next.
Nearby contractor was stopped spreading by EA with a warning of action.
Our contractor found EA helpful if you contact them before spreading with an acceptable plan of action.
We are not in NVZ
We have total 6 months storage, which is fine if September spreading happens as planned
 

Bert Jansch

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Lancashire
Spread away, legally of course, don't cause any pollution and carry on. Contacting them for any reason unless absolutely essential is just putting you on their radar.
Inspector once told me we tend to leave you alone if you don’t cause us any problems. I would also imagine they prioritise areas where pollution is a problem. Anytime united utilities have tested the water course running through here, it’s come up clean as a whistle.
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
The 1st thing I noticed when they arrived for my inspection was the fact they knew all about me,who I've talked with in the past and who and why they'd visited (I was reported for filling a pond and digging a slurry lagoon even though they gave me permission🙄).

They were quite happy taking pictures and mapping where everything was on the farm,to me it’s a fact finding mission,it’s all written down now.
 

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
Cows now bulling dec/jan calved strong animals, we finished Ai in January so we’re never going to get incalf. What’s market value? I’ll scan everything next week, short of grub so must go, she’ll I just book them in to kill at £4.12kg🤔
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