All things Dairy

[jimmer]

Not much good when its nigh on under water or shrivelled up because of the heat & no rain for weeks. You’re lucky if you’re in an area that can grow & graze grass all year long.
I assume grass is the only feed any of your stock ever eat?

If I could get my hands on Knightshayne, I'd spend more days out than here

 

[Wesley]

If I could get my hands on Knightshayne, I'd spend more days out than here

Thats a nice farm! Cross the next road & you’d be grateful to be back in the bottom of the valley again. Lots of acres north facing & it appears to make a huge difference. They weren’t daft when the Estate decided what to sell off nigh on 100 years ago.

 

[crashbox]

The only ones that should be allowed to use that phrase is anyone who hasn’t increased production since they abolished quotas. As for any new entrants to dairy farming since then saying it, well…

You'd be surprised the amount of farmers out there producing more milk than is optimal to maximise their business' profits...

New entrants, on the other hand, extremely rarely choose a high input, high output, high risk system. They are almost exclusively grass-based block calvers.

Just saying.

 

[Wesley]

You'd be surprised the amount of farmers out there producing more milk than is optimal to maximise their business' profits...

New entrants, on the other hand, extremely rarely choose a high input, high output, high risk system. They are almost exclusively grass-based block calvers.

Just saying.

Oh I doubt I’d be as surprised as you think. But you’re missing my point (but also proving another thing I’ve thought for a while quite well) it doesn’t matter what your system is. Any increase, be it from an existing dairy farmer or a new entrant is an increased supply & “the best way to lower the price”. I can’t imagine there is a single dairy farmer on here that isn’t guilty of doing it. Whether that be 20 years ago, 10 or just this last year. It certainly isn’t your place to decide that extra milk from one system is ok & another isn’t…just saying.

 

[crashbox]

Oh I doubt I’d be as surprised as you think. But you’re missing my point (but also proving another thing I’ve thought for a while quite well) it doesn’t matter what your system is. Any increase, be it from an existing dairy farmer or a new entrant is an increased supply & “the best way to lower the price”. I can’t imagine there is a single dairy farmer on here that isn’t guilty of doing it. Whether that be 20 years ago, 10 or just this last year. It certainly isn’t your place to decide that extra milk from one system is ok & another isn’t…just saying.

Agreed, increased supply from any system is increased supply, and not my place to decide how any farmer farms - apart from myself.

And, perhaps we agree, there's a lot of farmers out their chasing higher than optimal yields, that doesn't leave them with any extra money (be that stocking rate or yield per cow).

My point is that the extra (unprofitable) yield does both them, and their fellow farmers, a disservice.

Does create/maintain jobs, though.

 

[Farmer Keith]

Agreed, increased supply from any system is increased supply, and not my place to decide how any farmer farms - apart from myself.

And, perhaps we agree, there's a lot of farmers out their chasing higher than optimal yields, that doesn't leave them with any extra money (be that stocking rate or yield per cow).

My point is that the extra (unprofitable) yield does both them, and their fellow farmers, a disservice.

Does create/maintain jobs, though.

You’re last point is the crucial one, if we all farmed grass based at 6k litres there would be a whole host of consultants, nutritionists, lorry drivers, machinery dealers etc etc etc who no longer drew their incomes from dairy cows. It’s in everybody’s interest but farmers to keep pushing the cows, more milk more profit is a dead easy sell alot of the time, we’re all guilty of it to some degree or another.

 

[O'Reilly]

You’re last point is the crucial one, if we all farmed grass based at 6k litres there would be a whole host of consultants, nutritionists, lorry drivers, machinery dealers etc etc etc who no longer drew their incomes from dairy cows. It’s in everybody’s interest but farmers to keep pushing the cows, more milk more profit is a dead easy sell alot of the time, we’re all guilty of it to some degree or another.

Surprising how many low yielding herds use consultants. Andersons, lic pasture to profit, farm consultancy group all at it

 

[Wesley]

Surprising how many low yielding herds use consultants. Andersons, lic pasture to profit, farm consultancy group all at it

I think the only one on that list partly true would be lorry drivers. But only feed lorry drivers. All the rest are used just as much by grass based as they are by housed &/or high output systems.

 

[Blue.]

I think the only one on that list partly true would be lorry drivers. But only feed lorry drivers. All the rest are used just as much by grass based as they are by housed &/or high output systems.

The only one used here is the lorry driver,all my feed comes in an artic,usually on a return to base load.

I was only saying the other day we’re a crap farm for reps etc when you don’t buy off them they stop coming near,having an automated gate helps they never get a foot in the door.

 

[easy farming]

Surprising how many low yielding herds use consultants. Andersons, lic pasture to profit, farm consultancy group all at it

One to one or discussion groups?

 

[Princess Pooper]

Hello, I am a final year BSc (Hons) Agriculture with Animal Science student at Harper Adam’s University. The purpose of my study for my dissertation is to seek information about how Johne’s disease impacts small-scale dairy farms in the UK.
If you are a dairy farmer/farm worker in the UK please could you spare a 5-10 minutes to complete my questionnaire.
https://app.onlinesurveys.jisc.ac.uk/s/harper-adams/johne-s
Thank you in advance

Surprising in a study of small-scale dairy farms to find herd size options such as 250- 500 and 500+!

 

[Sandy321]

Surprising in a study of small-scale dairy farms to find herd size options such as 250- 500 and 500+!

It’s to compare the data in regards to management practises etc of Johne’s and how they differ with herd size

 

[Martyn]

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[O'Reilly]

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[FarmerWasty]

I wonder who Tim Farron was referring to in his latest speech in the house of commons?

 

[Scholsey]

Would be an easy win for the government /dairy industry for free milk for all primary aged children I would have thought, especially with all the health benefits being proven lately.

 

[vantage]

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Would be an easy win for the government /dairy industry for free milk for all primary aged children I would have thought, especially with all the health benefits being proven lately.

Good use for some of the AHDB levy.

 

[Scholsey]

Good use for some of the AHDB levy.

Wouldn’t bother me if it all went on it! Would be better than a course on some random crap 300 miles away which is all it seems to be these days.

 

[Milkcow365]

Goings on lately.

 

[Blue.]

Wouldn’t bother me if it all went on it! Would be better than a course on some random crap 300 miles away which is all it seems to be these days.

Same here,I’d be quite happy for all my levy to pay for the local schools milk.