Another machinery scam or website hacked

[Bob c]

Found another dodgy site looks as if it the same scam another name www.agrilandmachinery.com pictures of tractors from other sites and prices very low another one to avoid.

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/agri-land-machinery-ltd.176430/

 

[AD len]

because they want what they see advertised, and with technology these days they expect things to be legitimate and up and above board. if you look it up acs it says they have Neen doing business since 2010... so why the f**k are they still trading as a legitimate company. if you think this is acceptable because I'm dumb enough to be had then you need ur head testing. all I hear is Internet shopping is ment to be the way forward. far as I see it in sick of paying all the tax I pay to be treated like sh!t . policing is a waste of money coz all they want to do is issue a crime number.

 

[jblc]

Hi I too have just paid for a tractor on the 10th July and like others I got the same story. It never came ,was to be delivered another day, never came again and then all communication ceases.
Basically you loose your money unless the bank and police freeze the NatWest account they are using and their is still enough money in it to pay victim. It sounds by the website that the delay in delivery is probably to give them time to move money from account to possibly an offshore account. I notified citizens advice who said ask them for a refund! Surprisingly there're was no reply from them. I notified fraud action and it alarms me that even though it has been reported by other members from the 6th July the website is still in operation. I also rang the NatWest bank and informed them one of their customers accounts was criminal activity and it needed freezing.They told me thanks for reporting it but couldn't tell me anything else apart from the police would need to contact them. I think everbody needs to ring up the NatWest bank fraud squad and complain,and also fraud action.It does say on fraud action crime report not all reports can be acted on. THIS NEEDS STOPPING IMMEDIATELY because many innocent victims are having their money stolen.I welcome other peoples feedback.

 

[AD len]

why do people send money without going to look at the machine? if its to good to be true its a scam

because some of us are dumb enough to have faith in humanity. not anymore tho.

 

[jblc]

New to the forum so Hi Everyone,
I'm following up ACS Machinery Sales who are still operating and run by Andrew Murphy and Caroline Boyd, If anyone has any helpful info or knows of anyone who's been scammed please let me know.
They almost took my friend for £7400, stupid i know but he got out just in time.

Filing a report with action fraud is a waste of time and the police don't want to know UNLESS you've actually been scammed for money by which time it's gone forever.

The way they operate, Send them the value of the machine by bank transfer to their UK company account, looking like everything is all going well, after all they are a legit UK company, after a few days this money transfer will bounce back to your account, they then offer an alternative account seemingly belonging to their logistics department who take care of the delivery of their machines, this is an off shore account and untraceable to ACS, Murphy or Boyd. ACS then deny they've received any money. You having sent money to a company off shore leaves ACS or Murphy and Boyd untouchable by the UK authorities.

All you guys on here seem to be wide enough not to get stung but there are some gullible people out there who have been scammed, and those who will get caught in the future.
I hear some of you saying "if people are stupid enough to send money without seeing what they're buying then they deserve what they get" maybe true but no ones perfect so lets try put a stop to these scammers...
Any info greatly appreciated...
Thanks to all for reading this and all the best...

I

 

[jblc]

I have been scammed aswell.I paid for a tractor on the 10th July which never came and same stories as the rest of forum.i assume I have lost my money

 

[SwOaker]

We (bw tractors & co Ltd) are a genuine business who has had our id stolen for one of these websites. They are all operated by the same gang most probably Eastern European but the site is registered in panama.
We have reported a fraudulent company attempting to replicate our website/company name to ERSOU – the Eastern Region Special Operations Unit.

This regional police team is working with us to identify scam sites and, where possible, remove from them the web. However due to overseas domain names this may not always be easy to do and ERSOU is urging farmers and those in the agricultural industry to be vigilant when buying goods and machinery online.
f you think you have been a victim of fraud: Report it to Action Fraud, the UK’s national fraud reporting centre by calling 0300 123 20 40 or by visiting www.actionfraud.police.uk

 

[phillipe]

Too good to be true ,it's a scam ,never send large amounts of money to anyone who are advertising a tractor or such like at a unrealistic price,go and look at it ,if your spending 10 grand a day to go and look is cheap no ?

 

[phillipe]

because some of us are dumb enough to have faith in humanity. not anymore tho.

Trust no fecker on the internet ,go and look and they won't show you walk away

 

[hope089]

New to the forum so Hi Everyone,
I'm following up ACS Machinery Sales who are still operating and run by Andrew Murphy and Caroline Boyd, If anyone has any helpful info or knows of anyone who's been scammed please let me know.
They almost took my friend for £7400, stupid i know but he got out just in time.

Filing a report with action fraud is a waste of time and the police don't want to know UNLESS you've actually been scammed for money by which time it's gone forever.

The way they operate, Send them the value of the machine by bank transfer to their UK company account, looking like everything is all going well, after all they are a legit UK company, after a few days this money transfer will bounce back to your account, they then offer an alternative account seemingly belonging to their logistics department who take care of the delivery of their machines, this is an off shore account and untraceable to ACS, Murphy or Boyd. ACS then deny they've received any money. You having sent money to a company off shore leaves ACS or Murphy and Boyd untouchable by the UK authorities.

All you guys on here seem to be wide enough not to get stung but there are some gullible people out there who have been scammed, and those who will get caught in the future.
I hear some of you saying "if people are stupid enough to send money without seeing what they're buying then they deserve what they get" maybe true but no ones perfect so lets try put a stop to these scammers...
Any info greatly appreciated...
Thanks to all for reading this and all the best...

Hi, just looked at your post and must reply, my name is Andrew Murphy and I am co owner off ACS with Caroline Boyd, I also own a company called AJ & MJ plant sales, we are a very well respected company all over the world, unfortunately some undesirable people have set up a website using ACS name, without us knowing, ACS has never had a website as it only sales to overseas customers who require specialist items, we are very upset that they are using our identity, we have reported this to the police & Actiion fraud 03001232040, and they informed us they are dealing with it, if anyone would like to talk to me please call me on my mobile 07899962533, and if anyone is looking to buy on line, call another dealer in the area and see if they are aware of the company you are dealing with and never buy any machinery without seeing it and meeting the buyers.

 

[AD len]

New to the forum so Hi Everyone,
I'm following up ACS Machinery Sales who are still operating and run by Andrew Murphy and Caroline Boyd, If anyone has any helpful info or knows of anyone who's been scammed please let me know.
They almost took my friend for £7400, stupid i know but he got out just in time.

Filing a report with action fraud is a waste of time and the police don't want to know UNLESS you've actually been scammed for money by which time it's gone forever.

The way they operate, Send them the value of the machine by bank transfer to their UK company account, looking like everything is all going well, after all they are a legit UK company, after a few days this money transfer will bounce back to your account, they then offer an alternative account seemingly belonging to their logistics department who take care of the delivery of their machines, this is an off shore account and untraceable to ACS, Murphy or Boyd. ACS then deny they've received any money. You having sent money to a company off shore leaves ACS or Murphy and Boyd untouchable by the UK authorities.

All you guys on here seem to be wide enough not to get stung but there are some gullible people out there who have been scammed, and those who will get caught in the future.
I hear some of you saying "if people are stupid enough to send money without seeing what they're buying then they deserve what they get" maybe true but no ones perfect so lets try put a stop to these scammers...
Any info greatly appreciated...
Thanks to all for reading this and all the best...

Yes iv been had last week reported to police... reported to my bank they didn't help one bit... I went in to the bank when I paid for the machine to see if I could make a secure payment as I hadnt seen it in person n they said yes give us your card n I just let the bank do it. complete let down. iv complained to action fraud. feels like they just let criminals get away with it.

 

[Jim147]

Yes iv been had last week reported to police... reported to my bank they didn't help one bit... I went in to the bank when I paid for the machine to see if I could make a secure payment as I hadnt seen it in person n they said yes give us your card n I just let the bank do it. complete let down. iv complained to action fraud. feels like they just let criminals get away with it.

 

[Jim147]

Might be worth getting in touch with the TV program watchdog at least it would highlight this problem with these scammers worth a try

 

[glasshouse]

Yes iv been had last week reported to police... reported to my bank they didn't help one bit... I went in to the bank when I paid for the machine to see if I could make a secure payment as I hadnt seen it in person n they said yes give us your card n I just let the bank do it. complete let down. iv complained to action fraud. feels like they just let criminals get away with it.

Best get on tv and shame natwest into action.
it also may alert others to this scam.
Even the scottish farmer has dodgy ads, like a tm 150 for 7k

 

[jblc]

[I was had exactly the same and felt exactly the same as you in the response from bank and police

 

[jblc]

when I rang up to follow up my complaint to the NatWest bank I was quoted data protection prevented them from telling me anything. I spent 1 hr on phone 11 days ago to the fraud section of natwesT and was rang up 11 days later asking for a commentary on what I had complained about as they had no recollection of complaint.at the bottom of fraud action report it said they cant investigate all complaints. 2 weeks on after reporting the fraud, fraud action have not contacted me at all

 

[glasshouse]

when I rang up to follow up my complaint to the NatWest bank I was quoted data protection prevented them from telling me anything. I spent 1 hr on phone 11 days ago to the fraud section of natwesT and was rang up 11 days later asking for a commentary on what I had complained about as they had no recollection of complaint.at the bottom of fraud action report it said they cant investigate all complaints. 2 weeks on after reporting the fraud, fraud action have not contacted me at all

they couldnt give a feck.
phone up private eye

 

[phillipe]

i will say it once again ,if it seems to good to be true its a scam,never part with your hard earned without looking at machine first,dont say it would cost me a days work to go and look ,it might cost you more

 

[jblc]

I would agree completely now with what you say. We all like a bargain but it was too good to be true. It is as though internet crime isn't a real criminal activity and gets little priority.Very frustrating.

 

[irishguy]

I had also been exchanging email with these crooks. Just to reinforce what is said above - this is a scam which uses a real companies details (cloned from companies house) and pretends to be that company. You are not sending money to that actual company, you are probabably sending it to a fraudulently opened account, it will then almost instantly be dispersed throughout a network of accounts opened fraudulently and dispensary abroad into a criminal network. I am so sorry to hear so many people have transferred them money, it could have been me! I am actually still in communication with this crook as he tries to sell me a tractor which was listed with another (genuine) seller at twice that price. I am enjoying wasting their time!