Anton Coaker: Machiavelli

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Niccolò Machiavelli was a famous diplomat and politician in renaissance Italy, in the 1400’s and 1500’s. Political skulduggery and manipulation was one of his many talents, and arguably the one with which he left the greater mark….given that we still refer to a devious politicians scheming as ‘Machiavellian’.

And it’s hard not to see what went on in Westminster last week as just that…devious and manipulative. We’ve known all along that Boris has considerable depth behind the bumbling persona he projects. For me at least the jury had been out until he took office as foreign secretary. As the Mayor of London I consider he’d acquitted himself reasonably, but once he was on the world stage, things started to unravel somewhat. He’d alternatively show flair and resolution, and then careless incompetence. As the months have gone on, I’ve found myself not likely Boris very much at all, and now I think we’ve seen what he’s actually made of. His camps apparent careful manoeuvring, to ensure he was up against a weaker candidate in the last stage of the race is a very sad indictment of what a moral poo-hole politics is. It looks very much like he used his admittedly strong backing of Conservative MPs in Westminster to tactically remove the more capable individuals as the field thinned. And while I was indifferent to the fate of some of them, and actively dreaded what Michael Gove would do to the country, as I’ve said, Rory Stewart impressed me from the get go.

And as the race went on, it was becoming clear that the wider public thought so too. By the time it was his turn to be surgically removed from the running, it was evident something was going on. We’ll stop for a moment and consider the nature of the process, because there is a world of difference between thinning a wider field, where the babble of voices makes it hard to choose, through to the final ‘first place’ race we’re in now. It’s the bit in the middle where the spotlight needed to dwell….and of suggestions of MPs trying to corrupt who is in second place. It appears some Conservative MPs do not want the deciding membership vote to be between the 2 best candidates, effectively Shanghai-ing the process. Now you might kindly believe that they know best, and are only doing this for our own good. Take your medicine children…it’s make you grow big and strong. It might be because they don’t wish the wider party to take them toward the middle ground, which Rory was clearly going to be doing.

It might be that they fear he wouldn’t be able to hold the team together and win a General Election, although I’m being a bit charitable now. Obviously, taking a party into a GE, you’ve got have more than just the most rational mind and decent sense of purpose. If you haven’t got flair – that zing- it’s likely that neither the electorate and those you’re working with will wholly respect you, and if you aren’t perceived as having the killer instinct, voters will assume you might fail to press the metaphoric button come the last minute. Maybe that was the fear. But I don’t buy a bit of that. I believe the field was thinned to suit ‘Camp Johnson’s’ basest desires and fears. So we’re left with Boris, and one of the …er…less able candidates.

And while I might have judged Jeremy Hunt wholly wrong, and he might have depths I haven’t sussed…. I think it’s a forgone conclusion now. What a very great shame, and what an extension of the sorry state we are in. I suppose the upside is that we’re likely rid of Gove for a good while now. Watching his carefully coached performance during the Channel 4 debate, my skin crawled. I’d have said the first rule of taking lessons in how to win people over is that they shouldn’t be able to see you doing it. And the way he jerkily switched his attention from questioning audience to ‘direct to camera’ was both pants, and very apparent.

I didn’t feel he was talking directly to me- the viewer and voter, despite a desperate faux earnestness. The real problem is that he creeps me out.

Along the line, I didn’t like the aggressive cut of yer man Raab, nor the ‘Look at me, I’m doing really well’ Javid fella. No, Rory spoke quietly, but said the right things, and stole the show…but he’s been dumped for it anyway. Hmm, it’s a funny old world.


Now, where was it Machiavelli came from……. ?
 

RushesToo

Member
Location
Fingringhoe
Thank you again Anton. I also listened to what Rory Stewart said bringing in a hinterland - displaying an old head on young shoulders. Sadly I knew he was immediately doomed* - this depth of thinking is beyond those that think of their alliances before their country.

I suspect this is what is called progress. I call it cronyism and it scares me.





*more so after I saw what he looked like as I mostly listen to things. This also worries me deeply that it would almost certainly sway opinion.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Thank you again Anton. I also listened to what Rory Stewart said bringing in a hinterland - displaying an old head on young shoulders. Sadly I knew he was immediately doomed* - this depth of thinking is beyond those that think of their alliances before their country.

I suspect this is what is called progress. I call it cronyism and it scares me.





*more so after I saw what he looked like as I mostly listen to things. This also worries me deeply that it would almost certainly sway opinion.


I'm watching whispers in non-tory middle ground press about Rory.
It's very clear that he would've drawn a lot of GE votes back......what a wasted chance for the party...and country.
Mayhap he'll return...he's only a young'un yet
 

HolzKopf

Member
Location
Kent&Snuffit
I too now think that the process, long and drawn out as it is, has failed to produce a 'stardust' candidate. Stewart, for me didn't have the gravitas or persona to mix it on the world stage.
I honestly believe that UK politics is bumping along the bottom; the Northern Ireland shambles, the Scottish sabre rattling; the Welsh devolved administration - and now the Conservative members own 'choice' of Government after three years in the Wilderness. Boris is no Moses and I'm afraid to say I think his appointment will be temporary. I hope he proves me wrong and brings balls, nous and respect to unlock the problems we face. In many sectors our economy is booming but we need a new plan and someone to deliver it - but I don't see it....

HK
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
I too now think that the process, long and drawn out as it is, has failed to produce a 'stardust' candidate. Stewart, for me didn't have the gravitas or persona to mix it on the world stage.
I honestly believe that UK politics is bumping along the bottom; the Northern Ireland shambles, the Scottish sabre rattling; the Welsh devolved administration - and now the Conservative members own 'choice' of Government after three years in the Wilderness. Boris is no Moses and I'm afraid to say I think his appointment will be temporary. I hope he proves me wrong and brings balls, nous and respect to unlock the problems we face. In many sectors our economy is booming but we need a new plan and someone to deliver it - but I don't see it....

HK

'bout with you on that. Rory says the right things, but tw*ts who don't listen to the difference can still vote.
 

Have you taken any land out of production from last autumn?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Don’t know


Results are only viewable after voting.

Fields to Fork Festival 2025 offers discounted tickets for the farming community.

  • 1,996
  • 1
The Fields to Fork Festival celebrating country life, good food and backing British farming is due to take over Whitebottom Farm, Manchester, on 3rd & 4th May 2025!

Set against the idyllic backdrop of Whitebottom Farm, the festival will be an unforgettable weekend of live music, award-winning chefs, and gourmet food and drink, all while supporting UK’s farmers and food producers. As a way to show appreciation for everyone in the farming community, discounted tickets are on offer for those working in the agricultural sectors.

Alexander McLaren, Founder of Fields to Fork Festival says “British produce and rural culture has never needed the spotlight more than it does today. This festival is our way of celebrating everything that makes...
Back
Top