Anyone tempted to wait a little longer before drilling??

[franklin]

Last 30 acres going in tommorow. Drilled the heaviest fields on the farm today into the best seedbeds I have ever had with a very promising black grass kill last week. Delayed drilling certainly gives you a few sleepless nights but I'm very pleased I waited.

Good job. Love it when a plan comes together.

 

[snarling bee]

Now too wet to drill 'spring' wheat here. Land sits in 'fairly/very heavy' category. Now wait until Mid March I guess. Might try a frost, but that is a recipe for half fields done, rest not.

 

[Wombat]

33mm here in the last 24hrs and still going. Well thats put pay to everything including the bit of peri-emergence spraying for a while.

 

[Jack Russell]

I was getting annoyed that I had finished last week as the weather kept seeming to stay dry, now I feel happy to have finished and sprayed up. Just a bit of avadex to get on and some auxiliary to get on the early wheats. Waiting for the elusive dry and calm days........

 

[Feldspar]

Had 17mm last night,just after @RTKfarm had been and dd some second wheat for me with his new 750a drill as a look see and trail. Very impressed, just hope it dry's out so I can roll it + Avadex it, then spray out the bg with some Roundup.+Vigon +Lexus.View attachment 75525Thanks RTK farm
All down to this forum.

I'm curious to know how this field is now looking!

It's interesting to read back through this thread and replay the challenges of delayed drilling.

I still can't quite decide what lessons to take from last autumn. I'm not sure if I prefer our forward more competitive September drilled wheat with bigger and more numerous black-grass, or the late October drilled wheat which is pretty thin but with less black-grass. September applied pre-ems have worked well whereas we struggled to follow the later drilled stuff with the sprayer meaning some late post-em "pre-ems". Certainly leaving a lot of late drilling and then messing around in mud is less than amusing.

 

[Jim Bullock]

I'm curious to know how this field is now looking!

It's interesting to read back through this thread and replay the challenges of delayed drilling.

I still can't quite decide what lessons to take from last autumn. I'm not sure if I prefer our forward more competitive September drilled wheat with bigger and more numerous black-grass, or the late October drilled wheat which is pretty thin but with less black-grass. September applied pre-ems have worked well whereas we struggled to follow the later drilled stuff with the sprayer meaning some late post-em "pre-ems". Certainly leaving a lot of late drilling and then messing around in mud is less than amusing.

This year we will be going for late September early October drilled wheats where we have produced a low BG situation (ie: after a spring crop or a clean break crop) I am not going for anymore late (post Oct 14th) drilled wheat crops as it is just too much of a risk in this part of the country on our soils. We were very lucky and managed to drill 1/3 of our wheat during the last week in October this year ...but these crops have not had an herbicide and have suffered from slugs and rooks from the day they were drilled. At best they have produced one tiller whereas the earlier drilled crop have five plus..For us after mid October its better to wait until the spring. (Our spring wheats produced the highest GM in 2014...they made milling and were sold well..!!!)

 

[rob1]

I'm curious to know how this field is now looking!

It's interesting to read back through this thread and replay the challenges of delayed drilling.

I still can't quite decide what lessons to take from last autumn. I'm not sure if I prefer our forward more competitive September drilled wheat with bigger and more numerous black-grass, or the late October drilled wheat which is pretty thin but with less black-grass. September applied pre-ems have worked well whereas we struggled to follow the later drilled stuff with the sprayer meaning some late post-em "pre-ems". Certainly leaving a lot of late drilling and then messing around in mud is less than amusing.

This year we will be going for late September early October drilled wheats where we have produced a low BG situation (ie: after a spring crop or a clean break crop) I am not going for anymore late (post Oct 14th) drilled wheat crops as it is just too much of a risk in this part of the country on our soils. We were very lucky and managed to drill 1/3 of our wheat during the last week in October this year ...but these crops have not had an herbicide and have suffered from slugs and rooks from the day they were drilled. At best they have produced one tiller whereas the earlier drilled crop have five plus..For us after mid October its better to wait until the spring. (Our spring wheats produced the highest GM in 2014...they made milling and were sold well..!!!)

same thinking here left mine late to spray some grass seeds that had dropped but two inches over the following ten days have left areas looking poor. Anything not drilled by 5th oct will be going into spring from now on

 

[Heathland]

I will try and take a photo today if the light covering if snow has gone.

 

[Heathland]

I'm curious to know how this field is now looking!

It's interesting to read back through this thread and replay the challenges of delayed drilling.

I still can't quite decide what lessons to take from last autumn. I'm not sure if I prefer our forward more competitive September drilled wheat with bigger and more numerous black-grass, or the late October drilled wheat which is pretty thin but with less black-grass. September applied pre-ems have worked well whereas we struggled to follow the later drilled stuff with the sprayer meaning some late post-em "pre-ems". Certainly leaving a lot of late drilling and then messing around in mud is less than amusing.

Right then I've been and taken so pics and it looks a lot poorer in the picture's but I think it's the light.
Had a good walk around and I couldn't find any bg,I did give up tho when I was half way across because it was so sh!t'e dew to frost heave.
I'm pleased I did not roll it,I went 20m up the field,then backed out has you can see in one of the pictures.
The headland looks bad but there are plants there.

 

[nick...]

I wish my late drilled wheat looked that good.rooks and crows ate alot of it
Nick...

 

[RimmerF140]

2 years ago we had a bag of winter wheat seed left. It was drilled on valentines day as a third wheat, just to get rid of it.

Was our best crop of wheat that year by far, better than the 1st wheats drilled in mid October!!

 

[Rust]

What variety ?

 

[RimmerF140]

What variety ?

Diego into fairly light land, went in well

 

[Feldspar]

Right then I've been and taken so pics and it looks a lot poorer in the picture's but I think it's the light.
Had a good walk around and I couldn't find any bg,I did give up tho when I was half way across because it was so sh!t'e dew to frost heave.
I'm pleased I did not roll it,I went 20m up the field,then backed out has you can see in one of the pictures.
The headland looks bad but there are plants there.View attachment 111180View attachment 111182View attachment 111184View attachment 111186View attachment 111190

Thanks for the pictures. Middle of the field looks good. As you say from the pictures the headland looks worse. I know a lot of that is the picture but if there is a difference what do you put it down to? Turning from the tractor, historic compaction etc.

 

[shakerator]

Right then I've been and taken so pics and it looks a lot poorer in the picture's but I think it's the light.
Had a good walk around and I couldn't find any bg,I did give up tho when I was half way across because it was so sh!t'e dew to frost heave.
I'm pleased I did not roll it,I went 20m up the field,then backed out has you can see in one of the pictures.
The headland looks bad but there are plants there.View attachment 111180View attachment 111182View attachment 111184View attachment 111186View attachment 111190

Any pre ems applied?

 

[Heathland]

Any pre ems applied?

@shakerator
Avadex excel 15G 15kg/ha
Roundup flex 1.5lt/ha
Lexus .020grms/ha
Vigon 1lt/ha
The Roundup went in with Lexus /Vigon all applied the following week after drilling.
Got some wheat on the hillside which has been worked conventionally and is very bad for bg,and it's where Bayer have there trials this year, its quite interesting to compare the two methods and the different levels of bg control.
If you would like to have a look you are more than welcome,it's up past GPs opposite his new road.
The headland looks poor due to compaction and my neighbours culvert collapsing and flooding part of that headland.

 

[shakerator]

@shakerator
Avadex excel 15G 15kg/ha
Roundup flex 1.5lt/ha
Lexus .020grms/ha
Vigon 1lt/ha
The Roundup went in with Lexus /Vigon all applied the following week after drilling.
Got some wheat on the hillside which has been worked conventionally and is very bad for bg,and it's where Bayer have there trials this year, its quite interesting to compare the two methods and the different levels of bg control.
If you would like to have a look you are more than welcome,it's up past GPs opposite his new road.
The headland looks poor due to compaction and my neighbours culvert collapsing and flooding part of that headland.

Likewise if your coming thru bb give me a shout

 

[Feldspar]

@shakerator
Avadex excel 15G 15kg/ha
Roundup flex 1.5lt/ha
Lexus .020grms/ha
Vigon 1lt/ha
The Roundup went in with Lexus /Vigon all applied the following week after drilling.
Got some wheat on the hillside which has been worked conventionally and is very bad for bg,and it's where Bayer have there trials this year, its quite interesting to compare the two methods and the different levels of bg control.
If you would like to have a look you are more than welcome,it's up past GPs opposite his new road.
The headland looks poor due to compaction and my neighbours culvert collapsing and flooding part of that headland.

So do you see low disturbance drilling as a useful / essential tool for black-grass management?

 

[Heathland]

So do you see low disturbance drilling as a useful / essential tool for black-grass management?

Yes that's my thinking at the moment weather it works only time will tell.
I had a very good control last year and I didn't want to disturb the ground just to bring more to the surface.

 

[Heathland]

Thought I'd post a couple of pictures as a update,I took them when I was doing t1 28/4/15
The good
The bad

The ugly
No bg yet