- Location
- stoke on trent
if tractor gone up 20%in five years.our produce not gone up whats gowing on? old tractor get spirted off to the east
are new tractor over priced
- Thread starter montys
- Start date
M-J-G
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They've gone up 200% or more (like for like) since the 80s.
Milk and beed are similar prices to back then.
Courier
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- Location
- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
You are expected to become 20% more efficient (again) to make up the difference, after all the USA can do that ................
Now tractors have all the toys and gadgets great way to justify the bigger cost but managed before .As said prices haven't really kept pace at all.
betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
In a free market, sellers will charge as much as the buyers will pay. There must be enough people buying to keep the sellers happy.
If people stop buying, prices will come down.
If people stop buying, prices will come down.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Computers have got cheaper like for like since they started making them. That doesn’t mean that farm produce should too, as they are completely unrelated. Price is determined by supply and demand, nothing else.
Courier
Member
- Location
- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
There will be a lower price limit for all items, including tractors.
Agco, John Deere, Claas etc would not remain in business for many years if they were selling at below COP.
The problem with Ag is that many folk seem unable or unwilling to assess their true cost of production and don't consider that they need a return on basic assets.
betweenthelines
Member
- Location
- southwest
Farmers seem to think differently to everyone else when buying stuff. Ask a "civilian" how much they paid for a car, motorbike etc and they'll say "£xxxx"
Ask a farmer how much they paid for a tractor, telehandler etc and the answer will be "I got xx% discount!"
Ask a farmer how much they paid for a tractor, telehandler etc and the answer will be "I got xx% discount!"
Doing it for the kids
Member
no one knows how much their cars cost - all they know is how much the monthly cost is.
sad world
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
Are new tractors over priced?
Of course they fudging are
Of course they fudging are
Courier
Member
- Location
- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
Very true - Folk are so "S**t scared" that something will go wrong outside warranty that they prefer to pay a budgeted amount through the nose rather than drive a perfectly serviceable slightly older car bought for about 20% of it's original purchase price with at least half its useful life left when the independent servicing sector has already got to grips with each vehicles potential problems and can sort most problems out for a month or two's rental costs.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Does Depreciation work at same rate they go up by?
Netherfield
Member
- Location
- West Yorkshire
Work it out on a barter system, how many tonnes of wheat, litres of milk, kilos of beef, dozens of eggs do you need to buy said tractor 10 years ago and how many now to buy the tractor today.
- Location
- Somewhere in time
You can't always get what you want, But if you try sometimes, well, you might find you get what you need
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
no, not unless you want to buy same spec as ten tears ago. And they won’t be available. Just accept that times change.
Or are you happy also buying ten year old technology for thousands of pounds too?
That's what I heard yesterday at a vw garage all cars are mostly on Monthly payments .A top of the range R line golf is now 40k!
- Location
- South Molton
Are tractors the same as 20 years ago?
X registered tractors.
What was a 200hp tractor like back then?
Air con?
Blue tooth?
Reliability?
Lift capacity?
Power boost?
Etc
Etc
Tubbylew
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Surely the question should be "why is agricultural produce so undervalued?" I don't blame the manfacturers for charging what they think the market can stand, after all they're not a charity doing it for the love of it.