Area zero/minimal/conventional tilled in uk?
- Thread starter Andy004
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@Iben - would be nice to have one or 2 facts in the presentation, but fair comment!
@Bogweevil - thanks very much for the link, just what i wanted, although a bit disaapointed the figure for zero-till is only 7% - i guess the paper was published 2019,so the figure would probably be a bit higher now.
@Drillman yes, i can imagine the cost of machinery is a big issue
Cheers
@Bogweevil - thanks very much for the link, just what i wanted, although a bit disaapointed the figure for zero-till is only 7% - i guess the paper was published 2019,so the figure would probably be a bit higher now.
@Drillman yes, i can imagine the cost of machinery is a big issue
Cheers
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I'm going back to rotational ploughing to bury blackgrass and ergot and support our wheat biased rotation. Most folks around here are non inversion, with a smattering of everything else
Spencer
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- Location
- North West
I see your well experienced with consultants and agents...
I’m interested to see whether the seed destroyer helps with ergot or makes it worse. Not many people seem to know much about ergot.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
How much gets thrown over the back verses how much in the grain tank??
Cranfield University are just starting a project on it. Interesting to see if they find any answers.
Cranfield University are just starting a project on it. Interesting to see if they find any answers.
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
I think we are trying to get away from the term ‘Zero’ tilled, because to be so, it would have to be ‘broadcast’ onto a totally undisturbed soils.
So the old term ‘Direct drilled’ is more appropriate. As some sort of tillage by the drill always happens.
I’ve no idea what each percentages are, other than to say that one of them is definitely increasing at the other two’s expense.
It isn’t the first time it has happened either. But I believe we have solved various issues that saw a reversal of DD’s popularity in the early 80’s.
However, the Roundup situation could be a problem in future, despite that fact that little if any more of it is used than on the other two establishment techniques.
On that subject, I have watched a few health videos on YouTube by a former Decathlete, Swedish guy, Dr Sten Ekberg, which are promoting more natural type foods, such as grass fed beef and milk and true free-range eggs.
In particular he is warning us about Carbs intake, especially from grains such as wheat.
More worrying is the fact that he talks about Glyphosate, used on what he calls ‘Hybrid’ Wheat and the fact that many countries in the world have banned Glyphosate as toxic!
Herein “lies” the problem: A Swede, now living in the USA, where they grow GM ‘Roundup-ready crops’ not allowed in Sweden, an EU country.
Anybody not fully understanding the real situation watching his, actually quite good videos, will easily be influenced by what is in fact, not true!
The real shame is that virtually everything else he talks about is fascinating and very helpful.
Snarling Bee, Interesting you're going back to some ploughing, and interesting on the ergot issue, maybe we should monitor it.
Two Tone - thanks for the comments, naming the system correctly isn't easy - for me, talking to non-agronomists, using 'conventional', min-till and zero-till seems the most self explanatory. My old boss worked on DD in the 80's i think some of them called it chemical ploughing, maybe promoted by ICI?
Two Tone - thanks for the comments, naming the system correctly isn't easy - for me, talking to non-agronomists, using 'conventional', min-till and zero-till seems the most self explanatory. My old boss worked on DD in the 80's i think some of them called it chemical ploughing, maybe promoted by ICI?
wanton dwarf
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The Jury is out on whether reducing Carbs is the way to go.
I would like to think a more Keto diet and some fasting will help with weight and health. Fasting should help with removal of toxins and maybe a sauna too.
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
I don’t disagree with your strategy but I don’t think ploughing solves the ergot problem. A colour sorter would be a very good service to offer your contract customers with a milling wheat rotation. Just my opinion.
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Are you a “Hi there Health Champions” follower too?
I must say, a lot of his stuff seems to make sense, even though it is often contrary to what the NHS are telling us.
Fasting has not appealed to me, but I have recently started taking 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider vinegar per day to break that stubborn weight loss syndrome and it seems to be working.
Most noticeable is the fact that it certainly reduces my appetite to want to eat.
I’m very happy to eat Eggs instead for cereals, but miss eating toast with them. The ACV is helping curb my desire for bread too.
I’d be interested in your thoughts on what I wrote in post 83 of the “Hobby farmers, who are they?” thread.
In my case, I was diagnosed as Pre-diabetic form a Hb1Ac test (44). Having started the Xyla Health Care course it went to 45(!) then back to 44. What struck me was that even though I’m allegedly Pre-, classic symptoms suggest to me that there is no such thing as Pre-!
But, at last, things are beginning to get more under control, thanks to Dr Sten Ekberg’s additional advice.
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yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
The problem is that every one’s definition of the different descriptions is different
better to use till age is a cultivation before the seed coulter that places the seed
notill direct drill no pre soil movement before the drill coulter
strip till a cultivation on the drill before the coulter in bands some soil between coulters undisturbed
min till strictly cultivated up to 50 mm depth
maxitill non inversion deep cultivation between 50mm to 300 mm
conventional plough and cultivate
most land round here is maxitill more than 50%
some ploughed
some notill
some strip till
- Location
- Essex
Maybe the term is low disturbance rather than direct drill?
A Claydon or a Mzuri are both direct drills, despite needing more power and moving more soil than a shallow cultivation, compared to something like the gd, which really is low disturbance.
About 3 years ago I heard it was 12% of arable land in "no till" which presumably includes strip till and chisel ploughs with seed boxes on as well as low disturbance.
A Claydon or a Mzuri are both direct drills, despite needing more power and moving more soil than a shallow cultivation, compared to something like the gd, which really is low disturbance.
About 3 years ago I heard it was 12% of arable land in "no till" which presumably includes strip till and chisel ploughs with seed boxes on as well as low disturbance.