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crashbox

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Livestock Farmer
Did the trials on the boluses for ketosis on a spring calving herd and there was no need to use them as there wasn’t an issue .autumn calving now and the last 2 years the standing hay has been more like lush pasture because of the weather so cows stomachs are shrinking.the tmr boys will no more about this than me as they feed a percentage of the milkers ration along with quality straw to fill the rumen out .
My thoughts are grass will be left to grow from April to end June then cut ,teddered ,baled ,wrapped so it 50/60+ % dm and then fed back to them along with 2 kgs of cake and a strip of grass to provide the protein.
Will this provide a percentage of milkers ration along with the haylage (dry cow silage /straw stuff)
That diet sounds grand for dry cows.

I guess the lush grass means lower dry matter intakes. We rarely get enough summer rain for that here on south coast in rain shadow.
 

rustyspring

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Livestock Farmer
Our systems are nearly identical. Except we calves about 2 weeks later but finish the same time.
All the cows and heifers start calving in June. All graze whist dry. All calve outside. Feed 2.5kgs of x-Zelit pre calve nuts 2 weeks before calving.
What sort of yeild are you achieving ?
We are pure Holsteins and fleckviehs doing 9000 at 4.4 & 3.6
Albeit that we run along the same lines you are way ahead of us on yield. We average about 7500 at 4.53 & 3.43. They would probably do more but we have never been yield driven.
 

Arla invests £179m in UK to secure position as key global mozzarella producer​

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The investment in state-of-the-art technology at the Taw Valley site in the UK enables Arla to even better meet customer demands, secure competitiveness and deliver growth in the mozzarella category.

That’s some project! Not that I felt insecure with Arla but they’ve obviously got confidence in their milk field.
 

frederick

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south west

Arla invests £179m in UK to secure position as key global mozzarella producer​

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The investment in state-of-the-art technology at the Taw Valley site in the UK enables Arla to even better meet customer demands, secure competitiveness and deliver growth in the mozzarella category.

That’s some project! Not that I felt insecure with Arla but they’ve obviously got confidence in their milk field.
In 2014 150 million bought you Aylesbury. Even if you had to allow for 100% inflation in construction costs 179 million is going to be a fair sized factory.
 
Where's the milk coming from? Is this encouraging expansion within Arla, recruitment or pulling milk away from another sector? A lot of Arla milk in the West country, including mine, currently goes upto Aylesbury.

It feels high risk investing so much in a plant that is producing a product for export but choosing to build it outside the EU.
 

easy farming

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Livestock Farmer
Where's the milk coming from? Is this encouraging expansion within Arla, recruitment or pulling milk away from another sector? A lot of Arla milk in the West country, including mine, currently goes upto Aylesbury.

It feels high risk investing so much in a plant that is producing a product for export but choosing to build it outside the EU.
You might find that they will open their recruitment doors, but be very picky about who they let in.
 

frederick

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Location
south west
Where's the milk coming from? Is this encouraging expansion within Arla, recruitment or pulling milk away from another sector? A lot of Arla milk in the West country, including mine, currently goes upto Aylesbury.

It feels high risk investing so much in a plant that is producing a product for export but choosing to build it outside the EU.
Building it outside the EU maybe exactly the right place to build it if you want to serve the global market. Arla already has the EU market covered.

EU direction of travel may have altered very slightly after the protests but if you want to build a new factory and fill it with milk the UK is probably a simpler bet.

Might mean at some time in the future my tanker turns left on the 303 rather than right.
 

sidjon

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As a mozerella plant it will be no use at all for the spring peak. Whole aim of mozerella is to get it out the door asap and minimum to store so it's going to need a flat profile to keep the factory happy.
But it would be removing milk from the peak even if the actual mozzarella plant needs a level profile
 

frederick

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Location
south west
But it would be removing milk from the peak even if the actual mozzarella plant needs a level profile
No it will actually exacerbate the peak. It will take X percent of milk every day. That will mean that the peak becomes a larger percentage of the tradeable milk. It will also increase the risk of the trough because it will need full milk supply then as well and there is no spare milk in the trough at the moment.

None of that however is bad news because it's obviously not being built to manage the spring peak but to increase the return on all members milk by accessing improved value added markets.
 

sidjon

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No it will actually exacerbate the peak. It will take X percent of milk every day. That will mean that the peak becomes a larger percentage of the tradeable milk. It will also increase the risk of the trough because it will need full milk supply then as well and there is no spare milk in the trough at the moment.

None of that however is bad news because it's obviously not being built to manage the spring peak but to increase the return on all members milk by accessing improved value added markets.
Happy cow's said it was going to be fill to reduce spot milk, which I guess is spring peak if the milk is coming from current members or our they going tobe the like supto move milk from Dorset down, if so why build it in the Milklink milk field which is always spring heavy and not somewhere more central
 
I’m sure they are fully aware of the milk profile of the milk intakes. I’m not as convinced it’s as spring orientated as you might think,

I think it’s raised a few eyebrows as them not selling as much milk could seriously alter the dynamics of the uk milk market.

Who is going to replace supplying those third party companies and will it short the spot market. Remember spot doesn’t mean spring flush only.

It would be interesting to hear what’s in store for Westbury now. That place is in need of investment and does help spring flush and I’m sure Arla has bought plenty of cheap milk to process before but I wonder how lucrative that business is?
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey

Arla invests £179m in UK to secure position as key global mozzarella producer​

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The investment in state-of-the-art technology at the Taw Valley site in the UK enables Arla to even better meet customer demands, secure competitiveness and deliver growth in the mozzarella category.

That’s some project! Not that I felt insecure with Arla but they’ve obviously got confidence in their milk field.

I thought @Bald Rick had the mozzarella market sewn up?

Brought this up at last night's producer meeting with Leprino (who are the worlds largest mozzarella manufacturer/supplier & now 100% owner of Glanbia Cheese as was).

First up, the £179m headline is a bit misleading as basically Taw Valley are having a total "end of life" refit so all the vats etc are being replaced & Arla are using that opportunity to install a mozzarella line but production will not be that great. Arla had looked at doing similar at the old Llandyrnog plant in the Vale of Clwyd but couldn't make the figures stack up but Taw has a bigger milk pool and Brexit, apparently, is now making it easier to export to the rest of the world as we are outside EU rules (allegedly)
Second, Leprino do not see Arla as anything other than a "benign competitor" rather than a "disruptor" as they often lead markets and so settle prices
Third, Leprino UK now have access to markets that were difficult or impossible due to trading deals prior to the takeover so using USA contacts (again, it is easier to export out of UK than either US or EU .....) have recently signed 5 & 6 year deals to supply mozzarella in to the Middle East & China where growth is good

Time to fire up your teats Myrtle.
 

dinderleat

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Location
Wells
Brought this up at last night's producer meeting with Leprino (who are the worlds largest mozzarella manufacturer/supplier & now 100% owner of Glanbia Cheese as was).

First up, the £179m headline is a bit misleading as basically Taw Valley are having a total "end of life" refit so all the vats etc are being replaced & Arla are using that opportunity to install a mozzarella line but production will not be that great. Arla had looked at doing similar at the old Llandyrnog plant in the Vale of Clwyd but couldn't make the figures stack up but Taw has a bigger milk pool and Brexit, apparently, is now making it easier to export to the rest of the world as we are outside EU rules (allegedly)
Second, Leprino do not see Arla as anything other than a "benign competitor" rather than a "disruptor" as they often lead markets and so settle prices
Third, Leprino UK now have access to markets that were difficult or impossible due to trading deals prior to the takeover so using USA contacts (again, it is easier to export out of UK than either US or EU .....) have recently signed 5 & 6 year deals to supply mozzarella in to the Middle East & China where growth is good

Time to fire up your teats Myrtle.
What sort of tonnage of mozzarella are leprino producing in the uk?
 

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