Green Grass
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- Location
- Cornwall
FFS. More separation of the milk pool. What happened to one price for all.
Arla
- Thread starter jade35
- Start date
The letter is signed , by amongst others , Jenny Clark, Asda. Look her up on Linkedin
, she worked for Arla, may still work for Arla, or may have moved to Asda. Doesn’t look good.
Just read the email, be good to know what is on offer for the extra, and why oh why can you not have a look at all the questions in the expression of interest survey without having to fill it in? Could save time and effort.
Sparkymark
Member
Will the cost compensation be on top of what we get for Arla Care?
farmer on a bike
Member
She works for Arla managing the Asda account. Each large customer has an Arla agricultural manager assigned to them working for Arla in the interests of Arla owners. She does not work for ASDA.
farmer on a bike
Member
In a sense less separation because now most Arla farmers have the opportunity to be part of either Arla Care for Cravendale, Starbucks and Costa or the Morrison/Aldi/ASDA welfare scheme. This has effectively rationalised the situation into 2 schemes. Arla Care being the slightly wider ranging and slightly more demanding of the two.
Just read the standards, how dictatorial. Maybe Costa would like to come and pick up their rubbish that is strewn around the countryside by their customers!
frederick
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- Location
- south west
I'm in a moral dilemma. When Morrison's reduced their payment I decided I'd had enough and wasn't going to let them have my milk on the cheap so when Morrison's 360 was withdrawn I reverted to normal.
However now I get the chance to go to Aldi or asda we are still ticking all the boxes and I would get 15k for not sending my cows to market and removing pen strep again from my drug list.
If we are already Arla CARE, should we express an interest?
Any idea yet which has the higher premium?
- Location
- Northumberland
Arla care has the highest cost compensation, you can't double up on 2 schemes.
ollie989898
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Errrr some of the dairy farmers I know have literally spent millions of pounds on infrastructure and supply milk with top quality and constituent scores. There is no end to the list of things they have had to implement and maintain to achieve this whilst maintaining high levels of food hygiene and animal welfare.
Put simply, why should any particular farm obtain the same milk price without having any of the above in place, is that not what you are advocating or are you saying a dairy farm is a dairy farm and a litre of milk is a litre of milk because I don't think many people will agree that is actually the case.
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ollie989898
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I would add there is nothing unusual in this at all and many companies would employ a dedicated relationship or account manager for their bigger customers. In reality I should think it is a pretty thankless task given how demanding some customers could be.
Green Grass
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- Location
- Cornwall
It goes back to foundations of the coop. One price' obviously dependant on quality etc.' But not linked to which factory you supplied or contract your milk went too. Sometime you won sometimes you lost but milk income came into central pot then divided up.
Then Arlagarden was thrust apon us, no problem with that. Especially when bolted on red tractor. Now two different farm visits. And it was said this would be central data point from which customer health welfare cleanliness information demands would be satisfied.
The amount of extras contract meetings and middle management is increasing daily. And I feel a 'calcuim' type investigation is needed to see if it is really needed.
- Location
- cornwall
So why bother doing the sustainability etc and all working towards one goal, then undercut us by pandering to these companies and allowing them to split us up at will?
Memory is a bit hazy but in the early days those who supplied Tesco's got X pence a litre then iirc the Tesco money went in the Arla kitty and Tesco suppliers got a smaller payment than they had been getting to cover the costs incurred meeting Tesco requirements?
So what's changed?
So what's changed?
celtis man
Member
I don't know if we can do all they ask of us
ollie989898
Member
Are you being paid a premium for being a member of Arla garden? If not, why are you still doing it?
You can't expect the same milk price as someone else merely because you happen to sell to the same company. That's nonsense and not really within the spirit of free commerce of which I know well TFF is a generally a staunch defender thereof.
There are farmers who have spent big sums of money to maintain cow welfare and comfort. Others spend a great deal of time on management and veterinary input to look after animal health. I know farmers who would sooner shoot an animal than really spend much time tending to what they would consider a lost cause. Ditto, there is a wide range of attitudes toward dairy bull calves and how far people will take them. Other people spend a lot of time on milk quality, hygiene and things like locomotion scoring and the like.
You can't have a universal price for something at the farm gate because how any two farms produce that milk varies widely. Some farms outwinter their stock and they do very nicely. Others have had to spend a million quid on a cubicle shed and slurry store.
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