ARTIFICIAL (FEKKIN SCARY) INTELLIGENCE .....chat gpt

[spin cycle]

this should be funny but has creeped the sh!te outta me.....someone introduced me to an 'AI writing thingy'.....in fun i asked it to 'write a funny poem about an incompetent sheep farmer'

in a land of sheep there was a farmer called jim......whose farming skills were rather grim.
he'd stumble and fumble, creating quite a scene..... an incompetent farmer ,like you've never seen.

his sheep would roam and wander astray..... while jim would scratch his head in dismay.
he'd count them one by one, but always loose track......oh poor jim, his farming skills so lack.

he'd shear a sheep and leave patches of wool.....while the rest would frolic,looking cool
he'd mix up the feed creating quite a mess...... his farm a comedy show ,i must confess.

but amidst the chaos there was something unique.... jim's sheep seemed happy,playful and meek.
for all his faults,jim loved them with all his might....and they'd forgive his blunders,day and night

so,here's to jim,the farmer quite absurd......with sheep that laugh at his every word.
though he may be clumsy,his hearts in the right place...... an incompetent sheep farmer with a smiling face


edit....move in wrong place

 

[Exfarmer]

this should be funny but has creeped the sh!te outta me.....someone introduced me to an 'AI writing thingy'.....in fun i asked it to 'write a funny poem about an incompetent sheep farmer'

in a land of sheep there was a farmer called jim......whose farming skills were rather grim.
he'd stumble and fumble, creating quite a scene..... an incompetent farmer ,like you've never seen.

his sheep would roam and wander astray..... while jim would scratch his head in dismay.
he'd count them one by one, but always loose track......oh poor jim, his farming skills so lack.

he'd shear a sheep and leave patches of wool.....while the rest would frolic,looking cool
he'd mix up the feed creating quite a mess...... his farm a comedy show ,i must confess.

but amidst the chaos there was something unique.... jim's sheep seemed happy,playful and meek.
for all his faults,jim loved them with all his might....and they'd forgive his blunders,day and night

so,here's to jim,the farmer quite absurd......with sheep that laugh at his every word.
though he may be clumsy,his hearts in the right place...... an incompetent sheep farmer with a smiling face


edit....move in wrong place

Just be thankful you did not ask about an incompetent Welsh farmer!

 

[br jones]

the duck has been using it for ages

 

[Danllan]

this should be funny but has creeped the sh!te outta me.....someone introduced me to an 'AI writing thingy'.....in fun i asked it to 'write a funny poem about an incompetent sheep farmer'

in a land of sheep there was a farmer called jim......whose farming skills were rather grim.
he'd stumble and fumble, creating quite a scene..... an incompetent farmer ,like you've never seen.

his sheep would roam and wander astray..... while jim would scratch his head in dismay.
he'd count them one by one, but always loose track......oh poor jim, his farming skills so lack.

he'd shear a sheep and leave patches of wool.....while the rest would frolic,looking cool
he'd mix up the feed creating quite a mess...... his farm a comedy show ,i must confess.

but amidst the chaos there was something unique.... jim's sheep seemed happy,playful and meek.
for all his faults,jim loved them with all his might....and they'd forgive his blunders,day and night

so,here's to jim,the farmer quite absurd......with sheep that laugh at his every word.
though he may be clumsy,his hearts in the right place...... an incompetent sheep farmer with a smiling face


edit....move in wrong place

And so it begins...

 

[spin cycle]

And so it begins...

thats what i thought

 

[Danllan]

thats what i thought

Yep, the whole thing scares me far more than the thought of a nuclear war starting, another pandemic occurring or finding I'm genetically French - because this is real, it is happening now and there is absolutely nothing at we can do to stop it as individuals or as a nation.

 

[Charlie Gill]

AI with a side of brain activity Sir?

Ready for Brain Transparency?

The promise of neurotechnology to improve lives and to gain insight into the human brain is growing. How can we uphold data privacy and personal freedom as we make strides towards a world of brain transparency?

www.weforum.org

 

[robs1]

The biggest fear is that iAI starts to know what I'm thinking, if it tells the person I'm talking to what I'm thinking it's not going to end well, and god forbid walking down the street with the wife on a sunny day, I'm going to have to wear a blind fold

 

[Jonp]

Don't worry. We'll all have nothing to do and no money to do anything anyway (cause we won't have a job) slumped on our sofas, sucking on our straws devouring with gusto our factory fermented gloop, observing our trusty robots fulfilling our every desire. We won't have to be creative or artistic or musical or academic or anything it'll all be done for us so we can pursue our lives of blissful inactivity. 365 day holidays, we'll never get bored, as all our entertainment needs will be accommodated by the skynet chip inbeded in our heads.
Great swathes of the globe will be happily rewilded as most humans won't bother with the effort of leaving their total fulfillment hovels and planet earth will return to nature with ever diminishing pockets of irrelevant humans.
Meanwhile the machines will have left to explore the universe, just leaving a caretaker server to keep things ticking over.

 

[caveman]

Don't worry. We'll all have nothing to do and no money to do anything anyway (cause we won't have a job) slumped on our sofas, sucking on our straws devouring with gusto our factory fermented gloop, observing our trusty robots fulfilling our every desire. We won't have to be creative or artistic or musical or academic or anything it'll all be done for us so we can pursue our lives of blissful inactivity. 365 day holidays, we'll never get bored, as all our entertainment needs will be accommodated by the skynet chip inbeded in our heads.
Great swathes of the globe will be happily rewilded as most humans won't bother with the effort of leaving their total fulfillment hovels and planet earth will return to nature with ever diminishing pockets of irrelevant humans.
Meanwhile the machines will have left to explore the universe, just leaving a caretaker server to keep things ticking over.

You won't even have to work for an orgasm. The chip will tell your brain you're having one on demand by just thinking it.
Old Baldy will be in his element.

 

[Muck Spreader]

this should be funny but has creeped the sh!te outta me.....someone introduced me to an 'AI writing thingy'.....in fun i asked it to 'write a funny poem about an incompetent sheep farmer'

in a land of sheep there was a farmer called jim......whose farming skills were rather grim.
he'd stumble and fumble, creating quite a scene..... an incompetent farmer ,like you've never seen.

his sheep would roam and wander astray..... while jim would scratch his head in dismay.
he'd count them one by one, but always loose track......oh poor jim, his farming skills so lack.

he'd shear a sheep and leave patches of wool.....while the rest would frolic,looking cool
he'd mix up the feed creating quite a mess...... his farm a comedy show ,i must confess.

but amidst the chaos there was something unique.... jim's sheep seemed happy,playful and meek.
for all his faults,jim loved them with all his might....and they'd forgive his blunders,day and night

so,here's to jim,the farmer quite absurd......with sheep that laugh at his every word.
though he may be clumsy,his hearts in the right place...... an incompetent sheep farmer with a smiling face


edit....move in wrong place

Looking at this I don't think the current poet laureate has much to worry about.

 

[Wuffler]

Looking at this I don't think the current poet laureate has much to worry about.

Quite.
The thick fecker can't even differentiate between loose and lose...

 

[czechmate]

Don't worry. We'll all have nothing to do and no money to do anything anyway (cause we won't have a job) slumped on our sofas, sucking on our straws devouring with gusto our factory fermented gloop, observing our trusty robots fulfilling our every desire. We won't have to be creative or artistic or musical or academic or anything it'll all be done for us so we can pursue our lives of blissful inactivity. 365 day holidays, we'll never get bored, as all our entertainment needs will be accommodated by the skynet chip inbeded in our heads.
Great swathes of the globe will be happily rewilded as most humans won't bother with the effort of leaving their total fulfillment hovels and planet earth will return to nature with ever diminishing pockets of irrelevant humans.
Meanwhile the machines will have left to explore the universe, just leaving a caretaker server to keep things ticking over.

did you see the film “Wall-E”

 

[Danllan]

Looking at this I don't think the current poet laureate has much to worry about.

Looking at the drivel he writes I'd say he has a hell of a lot to worry about! But, we agree, poetry per se has little to fear... so far.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Eh , American and intelligence should never be used in the same sentence except this one!!!
AI my arse!!!

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Just be thankful you did not ask about an incompetent Welsh farmer!

Walter???

 

[merino]

​

I thought I might try and cheer a few of you up. I asked chat gpt about what it thinks about a paper I found about efficient farming.

​

Efficient Beef System​

LCA OF NUTRITION AND FOOD CONSUMPTION
Open Access Published: 12 August 2015 Global food supply: land use efficiency of livestock systems Hannah H. E. van Zanten, Herman Mollenhorst, …Imke J. M. de Boer
The International Journal of Life Cycle Assessment volume 21, pages747–758 (2016)
Abstract Purpose

Livestock already use most global agricultural land, whereas the demand for animal-source food (ASF) is expected to increase. To address the contribution of livestock to global food supply, we need a measure for land use efficiency of livestock systems. Methods Existing measures capture different aspects of the debate about land use efficiency of livestock systems, such as plant productivity and the efficiency of converting feed, especially human-inedible feed, into animal products. So far, the suitability of land for cultivation of food crops has not been accounted for. Our land use ratio (LUR) includes all above-mentioned aspects and yields a realistic insight into land use efficiency of livestock systems. LUR is defined as the maximum amount of human-digestible protein (HDP) derived from food crops on all land used to cultivate feed required to produce 1 kg ASF over the amount of HDP in that 1 kg ASF. We illustrated our concept for three case systems.

Results and discussion


The LUR for the case of laying hens equaled 2.08, implying that land required to produce 1 kg HDP from laying hens could directly yield 2.08 kg HDP from human food crops. For dairy cows, the LUR was 2.10 when kept on sandy soils and 0.67 when kept on peat soils. The LUR for dairy cows on peat soils was lower compared to cows on sandy soils because land used to grow grass and grass silage for cows on peats was unsuitable for direct production of food crops. A LUR <1.0 is considered efficient in terms of global food supply and implies that animals produce more HDP per square metre than crops. Conclusions Values <1.0 demonstrate that livestock produce HDP more efficiently than crops. Such livestock systems (with a LUR < 1.0), therefore, do have a role in future food supply and therefore contribute to food security. Our LUR offers identification of livestock production systems that contribute to global food supply, i.e. systems that value land with low opportunity costs for arable production and/or by-products from crop cultivation or the food or energy industry.


With this in mind what factors do you think are critical to achieving a beef system with a LUR of under one?


This bits from chat gpt


To achieve a beef system with a Land Use Ratio (LUR) of under one, indicating efficient production compared to crops, several critical factors need to be considered:

1. Feed Conversion Efficiency: The efficiency with which beef cattle convert feed into meat is crucial. Selecting cattle breeds or genetic lines that have high feed conversion efficiency can help minimize the amount of land needed to produce a unit of beef.
2. Forage Quality and Availability: Utilizing high-quality forage that provides adequate nutrition to cattle is essential. This includes optimizing pasture management, ensuring proper grazing practices, and potentially implementing supplemental feeding strategies. By maximizing forage quality and availability, the productivity of cattle can be improved, reducing the overall land requirement.
3. Sustainable Intensification: Implementing sustainable intensification practices in beef production can help increase productivity while minimizing land use. This involves adopting technologies and management practices that optimize resource efficiency, such as precision farming, improved animal health and welfare, and efficient manure management.
4. Utilization of Marginal Lands: Identifying and utilizing marginal lands that are not suitable for crop production but can support beef production is important. These lands, which may have limited agricultural value, can be used to graze cattle, reducing competition with crops for prime agricultural land.
5. By-Product Utilization: Maximizing the use of by-products from other agricultural sectors or food processing industries can contribute to a lower LUR. For example, incorporating crop residues, food waste, or by-products from biofuel production as feed sources for beef cattle can reduce the need for additional land to produce animal feed.
6. Integrated Crop-Livestock Systems: Implementing integrated crop-livestock systems, where beef cattle graze on crop residues or cover crops, can enhance land use efficiency. This approach maximizes the utilization of land for both crop production and livestock grazing, reducing the overall land requirement.
7. Land Use Planning and Management: Effective land use planning and management strategies play a significant role in achieving a low LUR for beef systems. This includes considering factors such as land suitability, soil type, water availability, and ecological considerations to optimize land use efficiency and minimize environmental impacts.

It is important to note that achieving a LUR of under one for beef systems requires a holistic and integrated approach that considers the interactions between various factors. Different production systems, regional contexts, and sustainability goals may influence the specific strategies and practices implemented to achieve efficient beef production with minimal land use.


This took four goes by the way.

As an addendum I found a really interesting thing in an Irish paper.

The net contribution of livestock to the supply of human edible protein: the case of Ireland | The Journal of Agricultural Science | Cambridge Core

The net contribution of livestock to the supply of human edible protein: the case of Ireland - Volume 159 Issue 5-6

www.cambridge.org

Effect of pasture suitability for arable cropping​

Table 5 demonstrates that when the pasture of the ruminant system grazes is 0% suitable for arable crop production, dairy beef and suckler beef systems’ LUR are 0.25 and 0.28, respectively. When both ruminant systems are confined to marginal pasture then they are land-use efficient, the remaining feed–food competition comes from the arable land used for feed. In contrast in Table 5 where the ruminant systems are sourcing their grass from land that is 100% suitable for arable crop production, the LUR value of dairy beef becomes 1.35 and of suckler beef systems 3.77. Therefore, if the current ruminant systems are sourcing their grass from pasture that is 100% suitable for arable crop production, both livestock systems are land-use inefficient and are net losses to the supply of HDP.


So, it's not wrong on one and a half of its points.
An AI thinking beef has an underdeveloped positive contribution to be making to overall food security is fun.

 

[DaveGrohl]

​

I thought I might try and cheer a few of you up. I asked chat gpt about what it thinks about a paper I found about efficient farming.

​

Efficient Beef System​

LCA OF NUTRITION AND FOOD CONSUMPTION
Open Access Published: 12 August 2015 Global food supply: land use efficiency of livestock systems Hannah H. E. van Zanten, Herman Mollenhorst, …Imke J. M. de Boer
The International Journal of Life Cycle Assessment volume 21, pages747–758 (2016)
Abstract Purpose

Livestock already use most global agricultural land, whereas the demand for animal-source food (ASF) is expected to increase. To address the contribution of livestock to global food supply, we need a measure for land use efficiency of livestock systems. Methods Existing measures capture different aspects of the debate about land use efficiency of livestock systems, such as plant productivity and the efficiency of converting feed, especially human-inedible feed, into animal products. So far, the suitability of land for cultivation of food crops has not been accounted for. Our land use ratio (LUR) includes all above-mentioned aspects and yields a realistic insight into land use efficiency of livestock systems. LUR is defined as the maximum amount of human-digestible protein (HDP) derived from food crops on all land used to cultivate feed required to produce 1 kg ASF over the amount of HDP in that 1 kg ASF. We illustrated our concept for three case systems.

Results and discussion


The LUR for the case of laying hens equaled 2.08, implying that land required to produce 1 kg HDP from laying hens could directly yield 2.08 kg HDP from human food crops. For dairy cows, the LUR was 2.10 when kept on sandy soils and 0.67 when kept on peat soils. The LUR for dairy cows on peat soils was lower compared to cows on sandy soils because land used to grow grass and grass silage for cows on peats was unsuitable for direct production of food crops. A LUR <1.0 is considered efficient in terms of global food supply and implies that animals produce more HDP per square metre than crops. Conclusions Values <1.0 demonstrate that livestock produce HDP more efficiently than crops. Such livestock systems (with a LUR < 1.0), therefore, do have a role in future food supply and therefore contribute to food security. Our LUR offers identification of livestock production systems that contribute to global food supply, i.e. systems that value land with low opportunity costs for arable production and/or by-products from crop cultivation or the food or energy industry.


With this in mind what factors do you think are critical to achieving a beef system with a LUR of under one?


This bits from chat gpt


To achieve a beef system with a Land Use Ratio (LUR) of under one, indicating efficient production compared to crops, several critical factors need to be considered:

1. Feed Conversion Efficiency: The efficiency with which beef cattle convert feed into meat is crucial. Selecting cattle breeds or genetic lines that have high feed conversion efficiency can help minimize the amount of land needed to produce a unit of beef.
2. Forage Quality and Availability: Utilizing high-quality forage that provides adequate nutrition to cattle is essential. This includes optimizing pasture management, ensuring proper grazing practices, and potentially implementing supplemental feeding strategies. By maximizing forage quality and availability, the productivity of cattle can be improved, reducing the overall land requirement.
3. Sustainable Intensification: Implementing sustainable intensification practices in beef production can help increase productivity while minimizing land use. This involves adopting technologies and management practices that optimize resource efficiency, such as precision farming, improved animal health and welfare, and efficient manure management.
4. Utilization of Marginal Lands: Identifying and utilizing marginal lands that are not suitable for crop production but can support beef production is important. These lands, which may have limited agricultural value, can be used to graze cattle, reducing competition with crops for prime agricultural land.
5. By-Product Utilization: Maximizing the use of by-products from other agricultural sectors or food processing industries can contribute to a lower LUR. For example, incorporating crop residues, food waste, or by-products from biofuel production as feed sources for beef cattle can reduce the need for additional land to produce animal feed.
6. Integrated Crop-Livestock Systems: Implementing integrated crop-livestock systems, where beef cattle graze on crop residues or cover crops, can enhance land use efficiency. This approach maximizes the utilization of land for both crop production and livestock grazing, reducing the overall land requirement.
7. Land Use Planning and Management: Effective land use planning and management strategies play a significant role in achieving a low LUR for beef systems. This includes considering factors such as land suitability, soil type, water availability, and ecological considerations to optimize land use efficiency and minimize environmental impacts.

It is important to note that achieving a LUR of under one for beef systems requires a holistic and integrated approach that considers the interactions between various factors. Different production systems, regional contexts, and sustainability goals may influence the specific strategies and practices implemented to achieve efficient beef production with minimal land use.


This took four goes by the way.

As an addendum I found a really interesting thing in an Irish paper.

The net contribution of livestock to the supply of human edible protein: the case of Ireland | The Journal of Agricultural Science | Cambridge Core

The net contribution of livestock to the supply of human edible protein: the case of Ireland - Volume 159 Issue 5-6

www.cambridge.org

Effect of pasture suitability for arable cropping​

Table 5 demonstrates that when the pasture of the ruminant system grazes is 0% suitable for arable crop production, dairy beef and suckler beef systems’ LUR are 0.25 and 0.28, respectively. When both ruminant systems are confined to marginal pasture then they are land-use efficient, the remaining feed–food competition comes from the arable land used for feed. In contrast in Table 5 where the ruminant systems are sourcing their grass from land that is 100% suitable for arable crop production, the LUR value of dairy beef becomes 1.35 and of suckler beef systems 3.77. Therefore, if the current ruminant systems are sourcing their grass from pasture that is 100% suitable for arable crop production, both livestock systems are land-use inefficient and are net losses to the supply of HDP.


So, it's not wrong on one and a half of its points.
An AI thinking beef has an underdeveloped positive contribution to be making to overall food security is fun.

AI can be right sometimes. Other times it isn’t. So I’m still unsure what it’s going to add in terms of information other than vastly increase the amount of "information", thereby just making everything harder to keep track of. The huge dilution and perpetuation effect worries me deeply.

Just as an aside, if a piece of land is WHOLLY unsuitable for arable cropping then how does the ratio ever get above zero? Also, we already know that ruminants are incredible upscalers of protein. They take 0.6kg of human indigestible protein and convert it into 1kg of human digestible protein. I haven’t looked at the actual study, but did it take this into account when evaluating the different land uses?

 

[merino]

AI can be right sometimes. Other times it isn’t. So I’m still unsure what it’s going to add in terms of information other than vastly increase the amount of "information", thereby just making everything harder to keep track of. The huge dilution and perpetuation effect worries me deeply.

Just as an aside, if a piece of land is WHOLLY unsuitable for arable cropping then how does the ratio ever get above zero? Also, we already know that ruminants are incredible upscalers of protein. They take 0.6kg of human indigestible protein and convert it into 1kg of human digestible protein. I haven’t looked at the actual study, but did it take this into account when evaluating the different land uses?

That was very much the edited AI response, it wrote loads and loads of unhelpful crap.

I'm not going to be able to summarise it properly, but yes, protein sources are taken into account, as is the fundamental lack of digestibility of the plant proteins compared to animal.

I'd guess that premise of the above isn't at odds with ruminants being efficient upscalers. Just that at this moment in time most farmers are making choices, probably sound economic choices, that don't result in the industry achieving what this paper considers to be a net increase in the amount of human digestible protein.

If you find that upsetting as an idea, which I'd guess you don't, please don't look into the energy side of the equation.


The equations are in both of the papers if you want to know more about them, given zero percent suitability just means that they're entering a smaller number for the production of wheat on the land one I don't think they'd have that problem with the sums.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Ok thanks. I won‘t be delving into it myself, your summary is fine.