Badgers

[deere66]

Anyone hear Jeremy Whine today? 13 badger sets are undermining flood defences around a town in Lincolnshire. Encouraging them to move hasn't worked so now they want a cull. Amazing the amount of Bryan May supporters would rather have the town flood than kill the cuddly badgers

 

[Kevm]

I thought the councillor put his side over very well and as well as the damage to the river bank he mentioned the impact on ground nesting birds, bees and hedgehogs.
Yes there were a few who rang in saying the badgers were there first let the town flood, wonder if they would be so kindly if it was their furniture floating.

 

[Midnight plough boy]

Makes you think, what with the amount of hoops we have to jump through for health and safety that the council don't have a legal duty to remove the badgers on H&S or public liability grounds. Has anyone ever moved them on legally under H&S grounds?

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

Need a caped crusader to leave some paracetamol laced apples and paracetamol laced peanut butter lying round the setts at night.

 

[borderterribles]

I heard it, it's a pity Jezza was so trite about it (nowt new there then, eh?), I thought the councillor was great. I look forward to the day when the sad-ass stripey lovers are queued up at the T.b. clinic.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Makes you think, what with the amount of hoops we have to jump through for health and safety that the council don't have a legal duty to remove the badgers on H&S or public liability grounds. Has anyone ever moved them on legally under H&S grounds?

Im moving some at the moment for undermining a shed. Crucially its happening when its still a farm shed not the dwelling its going to be.

Half the badger fence is up. Just need to finish the other half. Can guarantee they wont be coming back.

Think its a no brainer to move setts if theyre obstructions theyre badgers not sacred objects

 

[RobFZS]

Some people listening to that , regardless of liking badgers or not, must think wtf planet are these people living on, the telegraph did an article on badgers digging up bodies at a grave yard and the usual simpletons came out saying we should leave them to it

 

[phillipe]

they have spent 300,000 quid in unsucessfully moving the badgers ffs

 

[David.]

I think today is the day it finally dawned on me that the country is fooked.
How can a top level predator with no natural enemies be granted unlimited protection, regardless of the danger that they cause undermining flood defences, homes, roads etc?
And as for the silly cow purporting to be a badger "expert" *(because she says she is), and saying that badgers are not really carnivorous and do very little damage to other wildlife....
Not very often that I shout and swear at the radio, but today I made an exception.
How can this utter rubbish pass without challenge?

 

[michael N123]

Need a caped crusader to leave some paracetamol laced apples and paracetamol laced peanut butter lying round the setts at night.

Or some travelers that have "lost" there terriers

 

[thatlldaespot]

It was interesting to hear that woman grumbling about the mess and smell in her virtually destroyed garden, thanks to the badgers, and she was concerned for the safety of her three year old daughter. Bad enough with healthy badgers, but what if they had TB? Crawling all over the garden?

It was good to hear JV mention 'tuberculosis' in his opening chat, that's a word which the badgery fans seem to ignore.

 

[Old Boar]

Only a couple of generations ago (or one generation for me), TB was a dreaded word, much like the word Cancer today. Everyone knew someone who had died from it, everyone feared it. It killed thousands of people every year, and the medical community were doing everything they could think of to help people and halt the disease, including removing lungs in quite basic wards. I dread to think what they would say if they knew it was still around and animals carrying it were allowed to run free. They would think we are totally mad.

 

[Midnight plough boy]

Only a couple of generations ago (or one generation for me), TB was a dreaded word, much like the word Cancer today. Everyone knew someone who had died from it, everyone feared it. It killed thousands of people every year, and the medical community were doing everything they could think of to help people and halt the disease, including removing lungs in quite basic wards. I dread to think what they would say if they knew it was still around and animals carrying it were allowed to run free. They would think we are totally mad.

Perhaps if someone were to find a link between badgers and cancer then?

 

[yellowbelly]

Never normally listen to Jeremy Whine but when I got in the truck it was just coming on so I thought I would give it a listen. As has been said, the Wainfleet councilor put his case very well ,as did a bloke who phoned in from Somercotes about badgers undermining sea defences there. All JV could do was make smart @rse comments and let two female "badger experts" spout a load of complete rubbish. FFS how does a nasty piece of work like a badger manage to get away with so much?

 

[thatlldaespot]

Only a couple of generations ago (or one generation for me), TB was a dreaded word, much like the word Cancer today. Everyone knew someone who had died from it, everyone feared it. It killed thousands of people every year, and the medical community were doing everything they could think of to help people and halt the disease, including removing lungs in quite basic wards. I dread to think what they would say if they knew it was still around and animals carrying it were allowed to run free. They would think we are totally mad.

It killed my father, when I was 17. I never knew him to be in good health, he struggled with the blasted horrible disease for years. I could just bang heads together when I hear the badger fanatics dismissing TB as if it was just a little sniffle.

I simply can't believe that we're standing around discussing whether killing bloody badgers is cruel or not when TB is advancing steadily towards towns and villages once more.

 

[Old Boar]

In 2014, more than 6,500 cases of TB in people were reported in England.

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

In 2014, more than 6,500 cases of TB in people were reported in England.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34637968

Parts of London have higher rates of tuberculosis than Rwanda or Iraq, a report from the London Assembly says.

A third of London's boroughs suffer from high rates of TB, with more than 40 incidents per 100,000 people.

Some wards in Brent, Ealing, Harrow, Hounslow and Newham have rates of more than 150 per 100,000.

The report said prisoners, homeless people, people with substance abuse issues, refugees and migrants were particularly at risk.

Although the BCG vaccination against TB is recommended for all newborn babies in London, eight of the 24 boroughs do not offer it.

The rate of infection among UK-born Londoners has risen, while among the non-UK-born it has fallen - and the report said it would be wrong to assume TB was a disease of migrants.

Prevention 'poor'
The borough with the highest rate per 100,000 people was Newham, with 107 cases. Figures for 2013 from the World Health Organisation showed in Rwanda the figure was 69, while in Iraq it was 45.

Algeria and Guatemala also had a lower incidence than the capital, the reports points out.

The average rate per 100,000 in the UK as a whole was 13.

A few strains of the disease are now resistant to antibiotic treatment and the cost of treating them can be as high as £500,000 per patient.

 

[Kidds]

All you have to do is put badgers on the general license. It won't cost anything and all those folk out there with a desire to shoot badgers will do so. those that have no issue with them will leave them be.
Badgers will be reduced in numbers without being eliminated and things will be back to where they just about should.
Current badger levels are far from normal. I have no desire to see them persecuted to extinction and I have no time whatsoever for badger baiting but summat has to change. Strikes me as the simplest and cheapest solution is to allow them back on the general license, probably means it is the least likely thing to happen.

 

[Filthyfarmer]

[QUOTE=". FFS how does a nasty piece of work like a badger manage to get away with so much?[/QUOTE]

Because its the cash cow of the RSPCA amongst others..................

 

[Hilly]

First flood they will drown anyway.