BBC News said “cut back on red meat and dairy” again tonight on 10pm news

curlietailz

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Article on cutting methane
“Cut back on red meat and dairy”. Together with putting food waste in compost recycling, and getting fossil fuel producers to plug leaks.

bash bash again
 

delilah

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Played a clip on radio 2 news too. When will they realise that methane from livestock has not increased, even if global warming has?

When the people we pay subs and levies to extract their digits, develop relationships with key journalists, and explain the truth of it. Rather than wailing "Boo hoo it's not fair, we're going to take you to court". Because that's really worked hasn't it.
 

delilah

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Someone has kicked backsides at AHDB. They have made a major tactical change just in the last week or so, updated their 'we eat balanced' website, dropped all the statements that cows cause 5% of UK GHG emissions, replaced it with this.

https://weeatbalanced.com/can-you-e...an-have-a-positive-impact-on-the-environment/

Better, much better. They just now need to start to tell that new message, to the public and the media.
(NFU, don't ask, they are still saying that cows are destroying the planet) .
 

BRB John

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It's quite amazing to think that anyone can stand there and look at the planes in the skies, the oil gas plants, the cars that pack the streets, all the plastics that are literally everywhere and then come to the conclusion that it is the cows in that nice grassy field that has caused all the problems it's quite remarkable...
 

Muddyroads

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Exeter, Devon
Someone has kicked backsides at AHDB. They have made a major tactical change just in the last week or so, updated their 'we eat balanced' website, dropped all the statements that cows cause 5% of UK GHG emissions, replaced it with this.

https://weeatbalanced.com/can-you-e...an-have-a-positive-impact-on-the-environment/

Better, much better. They just now need to start to tell that new message, to the public and the media.
(NFU, don't ask, they are still saying that cows are destroying the planet) .
At last, a clear, simple explanation of the good that livestock farming can do. That message now needs to get out to those who should be reading it.
 

roscoe erf

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It's quite amazing to think that anyone can stand there and look at the planes in the skies, the oil gas plants, the cars that pack the streets, all the plastics that are literally everywhere and then come to the conclusion that it is the cows in that nice grassy field that has caused all the problems it's quite remarkable...
not in this day and age I'm afraid people seem to just believe without any kind of evidence or even have the nonce to question what they are being told lemmings comes to mind,I've become apethetic to most of the news these days won't even listen to it let alone believe it
 

MrNoo

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Cirencester
not in this day and age I'm afraid people seem to just believe without any kind of evidence or even have the nonce to question what they are being told lemmings comes to mind,I've become apethetic to most of the news these days won't even listen to it let alone believe it
I’m the same, not watched the tv since the start of the pandemic, cancelled my license. The only thing worth watching was Kirkwood doing the weather anyway!
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
Played a clip on radio 2 news too. When will they realise that methane from livestock has not increased, even if global warming has?
I believe that methane from cattle in the UK has decreased by more than 20% since the 1980’s, certainly from dairy. That is because there are 20% fewer cows if I remember correctly. Also those cows are producing more milk, which means more concentrates fed per cow which means even less methane.

However none of that matters to pressure groups because they are not interested in maintaining methane from cows at any particular level. What they want is a very significant REDUCTION at the cost of drastically reduced numbers of all ruminants. Far easier to demand this rather than catch the massive volumes of gas that comes from wetlands and particularly rubbish dumps and leaking disused oil wells.

This is the article that goes with the TV news

 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
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Cornwall
When the people we pay subs and levies to extract their digits, develop relationships with key journalists, and explain the truth of it. Rather than wailing "Boo hoo it's not fair, we're going to take you to court". Because that's really worked hasn't it.
I think @delilah you will find it has worked , as the people we pay subs & levies to still have their jobs, perhaps we should think about paying them on results.
Someone has kicked backsides at AHDB. They have made a major tactical change just in the last week or so, updated their 'we eat balanced' website, dropped all the statements that cows cause 5% of UK GHG emissions, replaced it with this.

https://weeatbalanced.com/can-you-e...an-have-a-positive-impact-on-the-environment/

Better, much better. They just now need to start to tell that new message, to the public and the media.
(NFU, don't ask, they are still saying that cows are destroying the planet) .
Yes , so much better, Well done AHDB , that's more like it.
Glad the UK livestock industry has been able to achieve Net Zero in the last week to allow them to change their message ;):D(y)
Could someone from AHDB please send that message to the NFU (y)
 

primmiemoo

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Devon
Mike Berners-Lee is still not accounting for soil sequestration when talking about the carbon footprint of red meat. He was on R4's PM programme yesterday with someone who, although giving some very good Real World balance to the carbon footprint message, didn't have the relevant, updated, information about meat, so allowed Berners-Lee to trot out his flawed calculations.
 

Mark Hatton

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Yorkshire
Sadly too many in the population want to blame everything and everybody else rather than take some accountability for how they live, society has become a throwaway culture, literally in a lot respects....the problem isn't the livestock, the problem isn't the plastic, or the cars or the vegans or any of the other headline grabbing issues, the problem is people, not just the number of people on the planet but peoples behaviours, until society takes a long hard look at itself, fundamentally nothing will change.
 
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texelburger

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Herefordshire
It's quite amazing to think that anyone can stand there and look at the planes in the skies, the oil gas plants, the cars that pack the streets, all the plastics that are literally everywhere and then come to the conclusion that it is the cows in that nice grassy field that has caused all the problems it's quite remarkable...
Agree,it's beyond belief. What's incredible is this is coming from so called academics and personalities such as Sir David Attenborough. We,of course,are the thickies who don't understand.
What i know is grass is top of the premiere league when it comes to carbon sequestration, it also allows a plethora of flora and fauna to flourish and develop.Cultivating soil and spraying for plant based foods to grow,well we thickies know what that does to the environment,pity the experts don't.
 

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