Beef Cattle yearly dosing program

[Geoffreywrc]

I am looking to know what other beef farmers are vaccine/ Dosing on a yearly term. In October my stock would be young Weanlings 350 - 400kgs.

October Bovillis IBR, Bovipast, blackleg
December fluke & worm & lice
February Lice
May Worm
July Worm

 

[An Gof]

Replacements all bought as reared calves and have had full vaccine programme in rearing unit.
My programme for cattle to grass on a 24 months system is very simple

Blackleg vaccine before first turnout
Ivermectin pour on 3/8/13 programme for worm control at grass
Ivermectin pour on at housing
Fasinex 240 for fluke 3-4 weeks after housing.

Works well here. Vet doesn’t like the prophylactic 3/8/13 programme and want faecal tests etc. etc. but there’s nothing more economic and simple as 3 doses of pour on

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

Replacements all bought as reared calves and have had full vaccine programme in rearing unit.
My programme for cattle to grass on a 24 months system is very simple

Blackleg vaccine before first turnout
Ivermectin pour on 3/8/13 programme for worm control at grass
Ivermectin pour on at housing
Fasinex 240 for fluke 3-4 weeks after housing.

Works well here. Vet doesn’t like the prophylactic 3/8/13 programme and want farcal tests etc. etc. but there’s nothing more economic and simple as 3 doses of pour on

Farcical tests

 

[An Gof]

Farcical tests

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[Mixedupfarmer]

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Probably right the first time

 

[crashbox]

but there’s nothing more economic and simple as 3 doses of pour on

For now, maybe.

Wait until you have resistant worms and can't use the stuff...

We only worm when there's a need. Sometimes can avoid a dose and it offsets the cost of the FECs.

 

[Sharpy]

For now, maybe.

Wait until you have resistant worms and can't use the stuff...

We only worm when there's a need. Sometimes can avoid a dose and it offsets the cost of the FECs.

It's also a bit like using the autoworm boluses, (5 doses 3 weeks apart) .They were so effective that the beasts had no chance of building up any natural immunity to parasites. Fist year at grazing without any parasite control ie as calved dairy heifers they suffered greatly from worms. An expensive lesson for the fella concerned who thought he was doing the right thing.

 

[An Gof]

It's also a bit like using the autoworm boluses, (5 doses 3 weeks apart) .They were so effective that the beasts had no chance of building up any natural immunity to parasites. Fist year at grazing without any parasite control ie as calved dairy heifers they suffered greatly from worms. An expensive lesson for the fella concerned who thought he was doing the right thing.

Natural immunity issue not a problem for me, they will only see the one summer at grass.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It's also a bit like using the autoworm boluses, (5 doses 3 weeks apart) .They were so effective that the beasts had no chance of building up any natural immunity to parasites. Fist year at grazing without any parasite control ie as calved dairy heifers they suffered greatly from worms. An expensive lesson for the fella concerned who thought he was doing the right thing.

If you need all that crap going into your animals then there's not much "right" about it

First time any of ours get a hole in them it's an eartag at sale time

 

[An Gof]

If you need all that crap going into your animals then there's not much "right" about it

First time any of ours get a hole in them it's an eartag at sale time

No ear tags until sale time in NZ?
Great traceability and management control

 

[Sharpy]

If you need all that crap going into your animals then there's not much "right" about it

First time any of ours get a hole in them it's an eartag at sale time

It was best standard practice at the time, also saved a lot of time gathering cattle on away grazing. But not repeated.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

No ear tags until sale time in NZ?
Great traceability and management control

Not on ours, they get named at birth and tag them with their EID tag the day before they go, very hard to rip out of an ear when they're not in an ear.
We had a lot of chain mesh gates which put paid to tagging calves, you'd go out the next day to ripped ears and tags by the gate.

So it evolved the calves would get born in the technosystem live there and come out when it was time to get carted off, certainly no need for treatments and vaccinations etc in that system, more when they get parked in fields

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It was best standard practice at the time, also saved a lot of time gathering cattle on away grazing. But not repeated.

Best practice stuff is often best avoided if you're serious about your herd/flock/health/pasture management. It gives predictable results but not always good ones

 

[Agrivator]

We urgently need an alternative pour-on to avoid continuous use of ivermectins.
Otherwise we will wipe out dung beetles completely, which will leave us with pastures covered in permanent cow claps.

I suppose we could export them to Mongolia or give them free to local old folk for fuel!!!!!

 

[crashbox]

We urgently need an alternative pour-on to avoid continuous use of ivermectins.
Otherwise we will wipe out dung beetles completely, which will leave us with pastures covered in permanent cow claps.

I suppose we could export them to Mongolia or give them free to local old folk for fuel!!!!!

Either different drugs, or different ways of doing things that avoid the parasite problems...

 

[Agrivator]

Either different drugs, or different ways of doing things that avoid the parasite problems...

It's very difficult to avoid certain parasite problems, even with a good clean-grazing system.

Lungworm and lice are the main culprits.

 

[topground]

Anyone have any information of the effects of strip grazing and back fencing so daily moves, not returning to the same ground for 30 plus days, on cattle worm burden?

 

[Green Grass]

We've had bunch late spring dairy x calf's not doing great all season being testing fec, mins, and cocci. Had bit of cocci early on. Treated with veccoxan. But still not thriving. Fec have being negilable all season.
Early Oct bit of lung worm came along (snotty noses coughing) so treated with ivomectin pour on now looking best have all season. Really frustrating.
Early spring calves being flying along not had any treatment for anything until also having pour on for lung worm. But they did have lot more whole milk to start. Sorry for ramble sometimes helps to write stuff down.
All had blackleg vaccine before turning out at 12-14 weeks