Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[casper74]

He needs big bop on the beak just for the sake of it. The man's a twit.

Did you mean to spell twit like that

 

[livestock 1]

When he was God's gift at Newark I rang him about taking suckled bulls and he pretty much point blank told me to take them elsewhere because he didn't want them. This was after he'd been sat at the kitchen table effing and blinding as crude as you like. In the workplace maybe but not in the house when you don't really know someone.

In your kitchen?

 

[z.man]

When he was God's gift at Newark I rang him about taking suckled bulls and he pretty much point blank told me to take them elsewhere because he didn't want them. This was after he'd been sat at the kitchen table effing and blinding as crude as you like. In the workplace maybe but not in the house when you don't really know someone.

But you were still wanting to take the cattle to him? Clearly he was less than professional when you were dealing with him but maybe we should all concentrate on the price of stock rather than the people selling/procuring them.
Ps not a dig at you directly I understand your point of view

 

[harperfarmer]

In your kitchen?

Yes our kitchen. I should be clear it was my dad at the time he'd come to see before I'd started to take over things. Dad was a Banbury man since the early 70's and latterly Northampton/Thrapston but thought we'd try Newark once Thrapston started to wane on the cattle side of things.

But you were still wanting to take the cattle to him? Clearly he was less than professional when you were dealing with him but maybe we should all concentrate on the price of stock rather than the people selling/procuring them.
Ps not a dig at you directly I understand your point of view

Yes granted but at the time we were shut down with TB and long deadweight waiting lists and needed an outlet for restricted bulls. Local fat sections at the time were woeful especially for bulls hence thinking of Newark. I'll admit I was surprised as much as bemused that he wasn't interested in them, they were decent U grade bulls albeit would have probably looked very ordinary against some of their regular stock. I agree regarding price of stock being very important etc but I actually accord a great deal of importance to an auctioneer's manner and attitude, across all sections. An old relation who recently passed away would buy tens of thousands of sheep out of the North every autumn and one of his sayings was "if you find a straight auctioneer, shoot him before he turns crooked" but I'd worry we'd have none left

 

[Gedd]

Hexham mule shearlings a flying trade all the best ones 220 plus poorer end 170s came away before the continentals

 

[z.man]

Yes our kitchen. I should be clear it was my dad at the time he'd come to see before I'd started to take over things. Dad was a Banbury man since the early 70's and latterly Northampton/Thrapston but thought we'd try Newark once Thrapston started to wane on the cattle side of things.

Yes granted but at the time we were shut down with TB and long deadweight waiting lists and needed an outlet for restricted bulls. Local fat sections at the time were woeful especially for bulls hence thinking of Newark. I'll admit I was surprised as much as bemused that he wasn't interested in them, they were decent U grade bulls albeit would have probably looked very ordinary against some of their regular stock. I agree regarding price of stock being very important etc but I actually accord a great deal of importance to an auctioneer's manner and attitude, across all sections. An old relation who recently passed away would buy tens of thousands of sheep out of the North every autumn and one of his sayings was "if you find a straight auctioneer, shoot him before he turns crooked" but I'd worry we'd have none left

In my opinion from what I’ve seen of your stock ( I’m sure it’s your photos I’m thinking about) they would indeed grace any mart in the country

 

[JSmith]

Anyone know how Hereford ewe lamb sale was yesterday??

 

[livestock 1]

I appreciate what your saying but in many ways good quality running lambs at £100 -£115 look very good value for money when you have been selling fat lambs off there mothers and grass circa £100 plus.
There looks like being plenty of keep about this winter and afew runners amongst the hoggs enables you to spread your risk/ exposure in uncertain times and also one way of building up the capital value of the flock without spending it upfront on good shearlings.

I was just thinking out loud really. If runners are around £110 they will be costing £30 to get them to this time next year where by they won’t have earned anything by then.
If tuppers can be bought for £140 by this time next year they should have managed 140% or even 100% looking on the bleak side they would provide a store lamb at £75 by now
Tuppers look cheapest to me and win hands down all day long
Plus they make so much better shearlings than the runners would

 

[Estate fencing.]

I was just thinking out loud really. If runners are around £110 they will be costing £30 to get them to this time next year where by they won’t have earned anything by then.
If tuppers can be bought for £140 by this time next year they should have managed 140% or even 100% looking on the bleak side they would provide a store lamb at £75 by now
Tuppers look cheapest to me and win hands down all day long
Plus they make so much better shearlings than the runners would

That’s true but ground we run runners on you couldn’t tup them.

 

[livestock 1]

That’s true but ground we run runners on you couldn’t tup them.

Yes exactly there’s that. Also if you are just planning to turn them over next year then you could be looking at £170 a piece with very little work and not too expensive winter.
Depends how you look at things and horses for courses.
If a fella is already in the system of replacing with runners he will have in his mind paying £70 4/5 years ago so won’t be too much of a hit paying £100 this year. Just a matter off keeping the job going

 

[Macsky]

Looks promising

 

[z.man]

Cast cows today £1070 BB x Holstein 710kg
Lim 730kg £1340
Lim 760kg £1430
All of grass only fair enough I think?

 

[Estate fencing.]

People always say that running lambs are far to dear and usually they are ok. Last year they looked serious early on but we managed to get them at a sensible price, but maybe I just don’t go for the better looking lambs. With most of my yearling customers the head isn't that important (apart from 2 people who want big dark ones and have to pay more) so I can run a lot of light ones, also buy untrimmed and scruffy lambs.

 

[hally]

Runners always look dear but just because a lot can’t be arsed to lamb them

 

[livestock 1]

Runners always look dear but just because a lot can’t be arsed to lamb them

There’s often people swayed by trying to spend less money and in the end costing more = lack of profit or taking longer to see a profit
I’ve learned the hard way with this over the years
It’s easy to say this now but people’s personal circumstances sway their decisions at the time too

 

[Hilly]

Do we think the north of England and scotch mules are making a come back ?

 

[livestock 1]

Do we think the north of England and scotch mules are making a come back ?

They never went anywhere to start with
Better than trying to lamb them lazy bloody texels
Lambs might be better but there’s no point if you only end up with half as many
Some me folks are saying there’s not as much gap this year between a Texel off a mule and a Texel off a white faced sheep in the stores
I don’t know I’ve not been to a sale

 

[hally]

Do we think the north of England and scotch mules are making a come back ?

I think your right, without as much demand on the continent for our lambs there doesn’t seem to be as much premium for smarter types in the fat ( although farmers still keen in the store ) and therefore weight is more in demand . Ideal for a texel/Suffolk out of a mule.

 

[livestock 1]

I think your right, without as much demand on the continent for our lambs there doesn’t seem to be as much premium for smarter types in the fat ( although farmers still keen in the store ) and therefore weight is more in demand . Ideal for a texel/Suffolk out of a mule.

Mule is a bit like the first x dairy breed cow just without the bad feet and mastitis

 

[Hilly]

They never went anywhere to start with
Better than trying to lamb them lazy bloody texels
Lambs might be better but there’s no point if you only end up with half as many
Some me folks are saying there’s not as much gap this year between a Texel off a mule and a Texel off a white faced sheep in the stores
I don’t know I’ve not been to a sale

Their popularity has wained the last15 year , I think they coming back a bit .