when the big lad bought em he was sh!ting himself coming home! i went out to look on crutches to have a look and told him when there dear buy good! after weighing them on saturday im well pleased , i thought they were christmas cattle therll be gone bye the end of harvest.I was up at his place last weekend. Christ the bull they are by has grown into a real muscle machine! Definitely a bit of green eyed bull envy going on!!