Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

cattleman123

Member
Location
devon
Some hope there:whistle::whistle: lamb price is dropping by the day and the AHDB are nowhere to be seen!!................

The MAIN question should be : Were these meals stamped with the RT logo or not???
Farmers have to produce what the market requires far to many heavy hoggets about....talking to a big midlands market Auctioneer today, his view is that a lot of heavy hogs come April will be very low in price...he reckoned they could be a fiver less than inspect hogs..why? because there are millions out there waiting for a price rise and getting bigger at the same time.....a little worrying
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
some say that heavy's pay better

What min price would folk need to forward sell in spec hoggets for this time next year ?
about the only way this will be solved
let them put their money where their mouth is for in spec lambs/hogs and for the farmers to step up
 
Location
Cleveland
Farmers have to produce what the market requires far to many heavy hoggets about....talking to a big midlands market Auctioneer today, his view is that a lot of heavy hogs come April will be very low in price...he reckoned they could be a fiver less than inspect hogs..why? because there are millions out there waiting for a price rise and getting bigger at the same time.....a little worrying
That auctioneer knows no more than me you or anyone else on here about where the trade is going to go....in fact the buyers won't even know! Anything can happen between now and April....it's no good farmers shitting themselves where the trade is going now....they weren't shitting it when they were 5 deep at the store sales with their chests puffed out bidding them to senseless prices as stores. If everyone sold them at 40 kilos the buyers would want 60 kilo ones, Hoggs will be what they are going to be
 
Location
Devon
Farmers have to produce what the market requires far to many heavy hoggets about....talking to a big midlands market Auctioneer today, his view is that a lot of heavy hogs come April will be very low in price...he reckoned they could be a fiver less than inspect hogs..why? because there are millions out there waiting for a price rise and getting bigger at the same time.....a little worrying

NO auctioneer should be talking down the trade like this!! ( be that for fat or store animals )

All I can say is that I hope said auctioneer is close to retirement for the good of the farmers who pay his/ her wages!
 
Location
Devon
some say that heavy's pay better

What min price would folk need to forward sell in spec hoggets for this time next year ?
about the only way this will be solved
let them put their money where their mouth is for in spec lambs/hogs and for the farmers to step up

COP contracts like you are suggesting above would be the death knell for livestock markets as for them to work then both store and fhinshers would have to sign up and then there would be no need for markets.

Take suckler COP, if I came along and told you that your COP for keeping a suckler cow is £400 head ( excluding unpaid family labour which is how the dairy COP works ) and that I will only pay you £400 head for your suckled calves that you are currently getting £700 head would you be happy and sign that COP contract?? no quite rightly you wouldn't!
 
Location
Devon
I wasn't suggesting a cop contract I was suggesting forward selling, different thing altogether

Complete waste of time as you could not forward sell all your lambs in case 1 : you didn't get as many as you hoped for and 2 not enough might be in spec.

The plain and simple reason the fhinshers that are holding 1000s of lambs that really should have been long gone is because they paid far too much for them as stores, utter madness to be paying £65 for a store lamb when if you sent the same lamb but fat the day you paid £65 the fat one would only come back at £70.

Store lambs have been £10/15 head too expensive all season!

Reality is the supermarkets have priced lamb in at what they are paying deadweight now, if it starts to go up they use imported meat to bring it down again.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Complete waste of time as you could not forward sell all your lambs in case 1 : you didn't get as many as you hoped for and 2 not enough might be in spec.
And there was me thinking you were a good stockman :whistle::whistle::whistle:
you wouldn't sell them all forward just like most corn boys don't sell all their corn forward,
as for getting them in spec that would be up to you as a good farmer and it would be up to the buyer to come up with a price for them, if they want these in spec lambs they can put their money where their mouth is
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
That auctioneer knows no more than me you or anyone else on here about where the trade is going to go....in fact the buyers won't even know! Anything can happen between now and April....it's no good farmers shitting themselves where the trade is going now....they weren't shitting it when they were 5 deep at the store sales with their chests puffed out bidding them to senseless prices as stores. If everyone sold them at 40 kilos the buyers would want 60 kilo ones, Hoggs will be what they are going to be
At Longtown store yesterday,satchells,lilliesleaf sold some beautiful suffx hoggs out of halfbred/or tex/chev ewes.They were big strong hoggs with good tight skins,and made just £64 to John Errington.Later in the sale some little diddlers,suffx made £55.It just didnt make any sense to me.There would be twice as much meat on the big ones at the end of the day.
 

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