Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[e3120]

It's an interesting one, these cattle keep on going up in value, but the increase per grade is even less now than it ever was pro rata. You'd get 10p/grade bonus back when they were £3/kg. So they've increased by 60% but now they're £4.80/kg still only 10p/grade. May as well just have R grades now I reckon.

Unsurprisingly, they've been more responsive in increasing the grade gaps below base.

 

[gone up the hill]

Supply and demand normally

Aye but apparently when sheep are selling badly that does not apply and brexit is actually to blame

 

[harperfarmer]

What do you start them on ?

The get crept on a 50:50 split of Beef 16 and whole oats from July. Then when they come in the yard in November they go straight onto Bull Beef Finisher 14%. Started mixing it with rolled barley and biscuit meal at the start of Jan to make it drier and stop them eating as much only makes it about 12% CP but thats plenty imo I don't want them to grow too much I want them to flesh.

 

[serf]

The get crept on a 50:50 split of Beef 16 and whole oats from July. Then when they come in the yard in November they go straight onto Bull Beef Finisher 14%. Started mixing it with rolled barley and biscuit meal at the start of Jan to make it drier and stop them eating as much only makes it about 12% CP but thats plenty imo I don't want them to grow too much I want them to flesh.

Have you ever tried manor farm ?

 

[cattleman123]

It's an interesting one, these cattle keep on going up in value, but the increase per grade is even less now than it ever was pro rata. You'd get 10p/grade bonus back when they were £3/kg. So they've increased by 60% but now they're £4.80/kg still only 10p/grade. May as well just have R grades now I reckon.

Great point...quality is not rewarded...sent an old cow this week 17yreas old a complete bag of bones...247 kg o minus 1..came back 850...does not make any sense

 

[harperfarmer]

Have you ever tried manor farm ?

We have fed a bit from them and bought rape/soya blend from them to put in the cows ration. But never to feed ad.lib cattle, we take our barley into John so it works well to use Berrystock products. And in all fairness I can't knock how they perform, it's fantastic food.

 

[Shebb90]

Great point...quality is not rewarded...sent an old cow this week 17yreas old a complete bag of bones...247 kg o minus 1..came back 850...does not make any sense

Where was that too

 

[Raider112]

It's an interesting one, these cattle keep on going up in value, but the increase per grade is even less now than it ever was pro rata. You'd get 10p/grade bonus back when they were £3/kg. So they've increased by 60% but now they're £4.80/kg still only 10p/grade. May as well just have R grades now I reckon.

I was just thinking about this the other day, they must be thinking they've got away with it.

 

[digger64]

Great point...quality is not rewarded...sent an old cow this week 17yreas old a complete bag of bones...247 kg o minus 1..came back 850...does not make any sense

are you sure ? good cows are coming to £1600+

 

[serf]

We have fed a bit from them and bought rape/soya blend from them to put in the cows ration. But never to feed ad.lib cattle, we take our barley into John so it works well to use Berrystock products. And in all fairness I can't knock how they perform, it's fantastic food.

Heard they do calf course whole mix for early doors that's not to mashed up , not been to place myself

 

[cattleman123]

Where was that too

Down your country

 

[harperfarmer]

Heard they do calf course whole mix for early doors that's not to mashed up , not been to place myself

I know people who feed their products and get on really well with them. I think it's all overthought a lot of the time and next year I'm just going to mix whole oats with pot ale as creep. Simple is best imo.

 

[livestock 1]

sorry- but being in the EU you may as well strangle all potential new young farmers at birth .

A lot of young farmers who I have helped are struggling due to Brexit
How many young farmers have you helped?

 

[gone up the hill]

A lot of young farmers who I have helped are struggling due to Brexit
How many young farmers have you helped?

In the nicest possible way give it a rest over brexit and find yourself a younger girlfriend in her 20s to take your mind off brexit as you only live once and when you are in the village graveyard brexit will not matter one iota !!!

 

[digger64]

A lot of young farmers who I have helped are struggling due to Brexit
How many young farmers have you helped?

some , I wouldnt no how many - I dont think about or quantify such things , dont suscribe or believe in protection rackets or rings either- particularly legalised ones .

 

[Hilly]

A lot of young farmers who I have helped are struggling due to Brexit
How many young farmers have you helped?

It is what it is , we cant change out just got to run with it ! Problems are here to be solved , like laws are here to be broken

 

[livestock 1]

I think we will wind up the Brexit discussion for the minute
It came about via the sheep trade talk and it’s sort of escalated. A few have had enough of it on here and who could blame them. At the end of the day a lot of time has elapsed and something needed to be said.

 

[digger64]

It's an interesting one, these cattle keep on going up in value, but the increase per grade is even less now than it ever was pro rata. You'd get 10p/grade bonus back when they were £3/kg. So they've increased by 60% but now they're £4.80/kg still only 10p/grade. May as well just have R grades now I reckon.

In theory you are benefiting from the higher ko% kgs more, seems a vastly bigger difference in the live ring but probably lost at store purchase . Do they want/ can they sell the extra meat cuts away from the loin perhaps ?

 

[beltextexel]

 

[harperfarmer]

In theory you are benefiting from the higher ko% kgs more, seems a vastly bigger difference in the live ring but probably lost at store purchase . Do they want/ can they sell the extra meat cuts away from the loin perhaps ?

You're right I am, and I have chosen to try and breed something to hit the higher grades when no one forced me. It just seems to have been ignored in the hullabaloo of all the rapid prices rises. Its like if your annual Christmas bonus was £100 when you're on £20k/year and it stays at that even if you progress and earn £40k/year (although personally I'd be happy with the £100 bonus let alone either the £20k or £40k/year )