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[kps]

Castle Douglas would be back mate was £12 back but some better lot a would be more.£160 could but useful sheep £180 top end

Any reason why there back? Breeders round here are off the clock you'd think there's no other sheep for sale in the world!

 

[gone up the hill]

....at one point I was thinking the cattle I've summered might worth less in Autumn than spring but its picking back up again now .

Cattle numbers are not there, especially larger 500 kilo + types, certainly looking like trade for them will be good this autumn unlike last year when the price of everything dropped like a stone then suddenly took off like a rocket straight after Xmas.

And i think a lot of the large scale finishers have this at the back of their minds currently!

 

[Shebb90]

Cattle numbers are not there, especially larger 500 kilo + types, certainly looking like trade for them will be good this autumn unlike last year when the price of everything dropped like a stone then suddenly took off like a rocket straight after Xmas.

And i think a lot of the large scale finishers have this at the back of their minds currently!

Why was friesians steers like, 19/20 months off grass?

 

[Tomo23]

The grass situation has completely reversed and fat is turning...a month is a longer time in farming. Outdoor cattle strong enough to turn back out for a while were serious money in Gisburn yesterday

I popped my head through between ewes and lambs selling. Think most things were serious money yesterday when you look where fat is. Some nice cattle in mind.

 

[gone up the hill]

Why was friesians steers like, 19/20 months off grass?

There was a lot of friesians penned yesterday, all really good cattle and well covered and they were selling very very well, i think some made well over £1200 head, no end around £1100 +

If they have some frame and cover about them it did not matter what breed they were they were wanted.

 

[Shebb90]

There was a lot of friesians penned yesterday, all really good cattle and well covered and they were selling very very well, i think some made well over £1200 head, no end around £1100 +

If they have some frame and cover about them it did not matter what breed they were they were wanted.

Ours got frame but not to much cover

 

[DB67]

Any reason why there back? Breeders round here are off the clock you'd think there's no other sheep for sale in the world!

Folk more picky perhaps. Castle Douglas ewe lambs sale tomo will be interesting. Think strong lambs will be stand on, smaller ones could be less money. Gimmering folk won’t be wanting to overspend if they’ve sold gimmers at £10 less.

 

[Stewartry hill]

Any reason why there back? Breeders round here are off the clock you'd think there's no other sheep for sale in the world!

there was a lack of distant buyers.loacaly a few keeping less sheep

 

[Hfd Cattle]

The grass situation has completely reversed and fat is turning...a month is a longer time in farming. Outdoor cattle strong enough to turn back out for a while were serious money in Gisburn yesterday

Same around here , don't know why stirks were ' sticky ' in Sedge as they don't seem to be sticky anywhere else

 

[Werzle]

Most farmers are part time farmers

part time mechanics
Part time plumbers
Part time electricians
Part time brick layers
Part time vets
Part time accountants
Part time fencers

If you have sold development land or sold off barns and used the money to pay for anything farm related you are lumped in with part timers too.

 

[Highland Farmer]

Their wont be food shortages and lower our inputs ive listend to that shyt for 40 year most cant get any lower ..

Lol, really? I see cattle and sheep bred today that need massive inputs in terms of vets, drugs labour, fodder, concentrate - basically every input on many farms is totally inefficient, but carry on as you like. Most won't change because they're focused on output per animal instead of output per acre. Funny how farmers here bleat about Brazil, Argentina, Australia, etc and don't realise we have some of the best fodder producing climate and stable conditions if we would only farm to our merits.

 

[Werzle]

Lol, really? I see cattle and sheep bred today that need massive inputs in terms of vets, drugs labour, fodder, concentrate - basically every input on many farms is totally inefficient, but carry on as you like. Most won't change because they're focused on output per animal instead of output per acre. Funny how farmers here bleat about Brazil, Argentina, Australia, etc and don't realise we have some of the best fodder producing climate and stable conditions if we would only farm to our merits.

Cant produce enough animals if we all ranched our farms because we do not own ranches. We mostly have to be intensive to make it pay. They try to undercut us now with imports, if we produced less and more expensive they would import even more!

 

[Hilly]

Lol, really? I see cattle and sheep bred today that need massive inputs in terms of vets, drugs labour, fodder, concentrate - basically every input on many farms is totally inefficient, but carry on as you like. Most won't change because they're focused on output per animal instead of output per acre. Funny how farmers here bleat about Brazil, Argentina, Australia, etc and don't realise we have some of the best fodder producing climate and stable conditions if we would only farm to our merits.

they do change they follow the money .

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Funny that a post like this should come up when the debate has centred around labour for the past 24 hours. Imagine all the proper work that would get done if everybody just stopped dressing gimmers overnight. The sheep would be exactly the same at the end of the day!

But if you get £10 more per head for your lambs it could be the best hourly rate you can earn!

 

[livestock 1]

But if you get £10 more per head for your lambs it could be the best hourly rate you can earn!

£30 a piece for 800 I reckon

 

[Skintagain]

£30 a piece for 800 I reckon

They always make a lot more covers up a multitude of sins

 

[Highland Farmer]

they do change they follow the money .

If they followed the money, then they'd be making money and not complaining about imports or prices...

 

[Farmer Keith]

But if you get £10 more per head for your lambs it could be the best hourly rate you can earn!

My point was if no one did it there would be no premium and you’d all be able to get a part time job. Obviously that’s not going to happen as we all know how important it is that there’s as many full time farmers as possible so that prices don’t fall further

 

[Hilly]

If they followed the money, then they'd be making money and not complaining about imports or prices...

Alot do make good money but are still pee'd off their efforts are compromised by imports and costs rocketing out of their control ….. who predicted £1000 ton fert when it was 280 who predicted £400 ton feed when it was sub £200 …..

 

[Jackov Altraids]

The one good thing about the removal of BPS is that real business decisions are returning to farming.
It was easy to take a punt on anything knowing there was a lump sum due at the end of the year that could get you out of trouble if the weather or prices were not favourable.
And the removable of BPS will affect everyone, whether they claim or not.
They only way I can see rents would have lowered is if there was an element of farming required to claim SFI but most money seems to be for removing livestock and removing food production.
And I agree with both sides of the argument.
@livestock 1 is correct in that farming 'part-time' CAN devalue farming in that it simply removes any expectation that it should be able to provide a 'living' but equally it is essential to have such diversity and will increasingly be the only way for many to farm at all unless you are a multi-millionaire to start with.