O4H how did they manage that someone must be breeding sheep with no sense of how they look at allPoor shape and fat. Not a market for lorry loads of O4H’s.
O4H how did they manage that someone must be breeding sheep with no sense of how they look at allPoor shape and fat. Not a market for lorry loads of O4H’s.
A 'pyramid scam' is a bit strong! What's the last page been, we're losing money on sheep so we'll put the boot in to somebody that might be making something out of it?? And then accuse them of racing to the bottom?It’s a pyramid scam, the ones at the top are making a fortune and the middle ones are trying like hell to get other people to invest in them. Need to keep the fresh blood coming in.
Probably just selected on dataO4H how did they manage that someone must be breeding sheep with no sense of how they look at all
Its what Iv heard for a main buyer.O4H how did they manage that someone must be breeding sheep with no sense of how they look at all
I don’t have a problem with other breeds but nobody is going to do a lot of good at £70-£80, whether they have a cheap system or not, we need to thrive not surviveA 'pyramid scam' is a bit strong! What's the last page been, we're losing money on sheep so we'll put the boot in to somebody that might be making something out of it?? And then accuse them of racing to the bottom?
Horses for courses, the sheep trade is bewildering. What works this year might be a disaster next.
I think what riles people is that they come across as wanting to rubbish other systems as a way of marketing their sheep. What other industry would argue that prices should come down. . I've seen them say tail docking and ringing is a welfare issue for example just to try and frighten (mostly new starters) into buying their sheep. They just hand the supermarkets and anti farming lobby the bullets to try and sell their sheepA 'pyramid scam' is a bit strong! What's the last page been, we're losing money on sheep so we'll put the boot in to somebody that might be making something out of it?? And then accuse them of racing to the bottom?
Horses for courses, the sheep trade is bewildering. What works this year might be a disaster next.
Fair point, but the phrase 'permitted mutilation' wasn't made up by them. It's what's in the codes of practice. And the way things are going, would it surprise you if that permission was removed?I think what riles people is that they come across as wanting to rubbish other systems as a way of marketing their sheep. What other industry would argue that prices should come down. . I've seen them say tail docking and ringing is a welfare issue for example just to try and frighten (mostly new starters) into buying their sheep. They just hand the supermarkets and anti farming lobby the bullets to try and sell their sheep
There's some poor examples of shedding sheep about, that's for certain.O4H how did they manage that someone must be breeding sheep with no sense of how they look at all
Well it will be if the sheep industry support it being removed! Then what will happen to the store lamb trade and of course it's another way of trapping people into only being able to sell deadweightFair point, but the phrase 'permitted mutilation' wasn't made up by them. It's what's in the codes of practice. And the way things are going, would it surprise you if that permission was removed?
Yes. But it doesn't have to be that way what @Electricfencer and @Aspiring Peasants are talking about is a stockman problem selecting them all on data and probably drawing lambs on weight alone. Someone who did it properly would have noticed the lambs were finished before they were 4h and would have chosen rams with some shape not just numbers out of a catalogue.There's some poor examples of shedding sheep about, that's for certain.
100% correct.I think what riles people is that they come across as wanting to rubbish other systems as a way of marketing their sheep. What other industry would argue that prices should come down. . I've seen them say tail docking and ringing is a welfare issue for example just to try and frighten (mostly new starters) into buying their sheep. They just hand the supermarkets and anti farming lobby the bullets to try and sell their sheep
It’s the same with this clip fitter castration thing. Trying to sell their product by highlighting alleged welfare issues with rubber rings.Fair point, but the phrase 'permitted mutilation' wasn't made up by them. It's what's in the codes of practice. And the way things are going, would it surprise you if that permission was removed?
Quite.Aye not the type of sheep I’m after ......the ideal sheep is surely the type that produce enough to be sustainable with the smallest possible flock this doing more and becoming more”efficient “ is starting to get tiresome
bit like shorn mules thenPoor shape and fat. Not a market for lorry loads of O4H’s.
Not as good an average but mediums a reasonable average at Ruthin on Friday as wellGood average on mediums in Builth
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That p!sses me right off…they go on like bloody vegansIt’s the same with this clip fitter castration thing. Trying to sell their product by highlighting alleged welfare issues with rubber rings.
I think AHDB must be doing a good job because every market report I read has fresh buyers buying on numerous accounts every week. Across the country there must be hundreds of new faces every week wanting prime lambs