Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Stewartry hill]

Few cattle of to woodheads this morning what is this lad going to be DW 27 months
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R 2 411 kilo

 

[Average Farmerboy]

Few cattle of to woodheads this morning what is this lad going to be DW 27 months
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R3, 395kg.

 

[Attam]

Few cattle of to woodheads this morning what is this lad going to be DW 27 months
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R2 390kg

 

[thorpe]

Few cattle of to woodheads this morning what is this lad going to be DW 27 months
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colne or spalding? we loaded this afternoon for spalding.

 

[Henarar]

A fair bit what is the payment for the rest and what restrictions does it bring?

I think you mentioned 1000 acres that wasn't moorland.
well we have about 100 acres,
we put together a SFI plan mostly legumes we already have clover so thats no problem, some low input which won't make any odds where we put it and one little field of herbal ley just to try it [we can add some more if we get on with it], apart from that lots of hedges/trees plus the nutrient and pest management and soil test plus the payment you get for doing the SFI,
It won't make much odds to the way we farm and we end up with a little bit more money than BPS was.
Happy enough on our small patch to be honest

 

[Devil's advocate]

I think you mentioned 1000 acres that wasn't moorland.
well we have about 100 acres,
we put together a SFI plan mostly legumes we already have clover so thats no problem, some low input which won't make any odds where we put it and one little field of herbal ley just to try it [we can add some more if we get on with it], apart from that lots of hedges/trees plus the nutrient and pest management and soil test plus the payment you get for doing the SFI,
It won't make much odds to the way we farm and we end up with a little bit more money than BPS was.
Happy enough on our small patch to be honest

I don't think you are allowed to spread fodder beet out in winter?

I'm not claiming on my 60 acre of grassland just for converting 9 acre of arable land to herbal ley, which I can afford to pamper. If that works more ewes but homebred so it will be gradual.

Walls at 27p per metre should get me 25% of BPS money which helps plus the herbal ley, mangement plans & buffer zones next to ditches, which I was allready doing & not claiming.

Restoring as many walls as I get time for, laying some new field tracks & restoring a couple of ponds in time.

 

[Henarar]

I don't think you are allowed to spread fodder beet out in winter?

yes you can

 

[livestock 1]

I think you mentioned 1000 acres that wasn't moorland.
well we have about 100 acres,
we put together a SFI plan mostly legumes we already have clover so thats no problem, some low input which won't make any odds where we put it and one little field of herbal ley just to try it [we can add some more if we get on with it], apart from that lots of hedges/trees plus the nutrient and pest management and soil test plus the payment you get for doing the SFI,
It won't make much odds to the way we farm and we end up with a little bit more money than BPS was.
Happy enough on our small patch to be honest

Yes in around 1000. I will need to look into it I don’t think where we are we will recoup anything like the bps payment we are in around a third of that for sfi. Some of the rough grazing that isn’t moorland won’t be much use for the herbal stuff although it is already there. It depends how we all define it I suppose

 

[Hilly]

There is an efficency from moving store stock to the lowlands for fattening.

That is where the feed is, where the muck is needed but sadly things have changed a lot in 40 years.

And their is nowt efficient about moving stock , just feeds hauliers and middle men really .

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

I don't think you are allowed to spread fodder beet out in winter?

I'm not claiming on my 60 acre of grassland just for converting 9 acre of arable land to herbal ley, which I can afford to pamper. If that works more ewes but homebred so it will be gradual.

Walls at 27p per metre should get me 25% of BPS money which helps plus the herbal ley, mangement plans & buffer zones next to ditches, which I was allready doing & not claiming.

Restoring as many walls as I get time for, laying some new field tracks & restoring a couple of ponds in time.

I don’t think it says that, it just says you must minimise bare soil and avoid poaching. Fodder beet would probably be OK it’s my ring feeders that may be a problem

 

[Henarar]

I don’t think it says that, it just says you must minimise bare soil and avoid poaching. Fodder beet would probably be OK it’s my ring feeders that may be a problem

yep for low input you can't poach

 

[livestock 1]

I don’t think it says that, it just says you must minimise bare soil and avoid poaching. Fodder beet would probably be OK it’s my ring feeders that may be a problem

Have you set away with sfi? Most folks are waiting I’ve spoken to. There’s supposed to be something better on the cards

 

[harperfarmer]

And their is nowt efficient about moving stock , just feeds hauliers and middle men really .

Really?! I thought that's why it was always traditionally done? Cheaper to move the cattle to the feed/straw than vice versa!?

 

[livestock 1]

Common sense would tell anyone that breeding stock in the hills and finish them where the grub and straw is cheaper is the job

 

[Hilly]

Really?! I thought that's why it was always traditionally done? Cheaper to move the cattle to the feed/straw than vice versa!?

Just all depends doesn’t it … not all cattle use straw anyway .

 

[Devil's advocate]

And their is nowt efficient about moving stock , just feeds hauliers and middle men really .

They used the railways when my grandad was young (pre WW2)

One load of store cattle versus how many loads of straw, grain, roots etc & the muck where it is needed.

There was another reason in those days animal nutriction was not the science it is today & many hills have deficencies, less so on lowland acres. That would be a big factor.

Still happens in the US, where are the feedlots? Where the feed is cheap.

 

[Hilly]

They used the railways when my grandad was young (pre WW2)

One load of store cattle versus how many loads of straw, grain, roots etc & the muck where it is needed.

There was another reason in those days animal nutriction was not the science it is today & many hills have deficencies, less so on lowland acres. That would be a big factor.

Yes, things have changed though , lot of arable men just dont want stock understandably , im now selling some of them sh!t .

 

[harperfarmer]

They used the railways when my grandad was young (pre WW2)

One load of store cattle versus how many loads of straw, grain, roots etc & the muck where it is needed.

There was another reason in those days animal nutriction was not the science it is today & many hills have deficencies, less so on lowland acres. That would be a big factor.

Still happens in the US, where are the feedlots? Where the feed is cheap.

Still used the railways until later than that. Was talking to my dad about it yesterday, he reckons he'd be about the last person to have cattle come down from Abergele to Rugby in the early 70's. Probably '73/74 as grandad died in '73. He said they were there looking at the cattle in the lairage and not a single person about to let them in to get them loaded. Reckons they waited hours before someone showed up so from then on they all came down on lorries.

 

[casper74]

Cattle are a lump less money in Thirsk today easy 15p some will be more, Very little enthusiasm ringside, Late starting as usual !!!
Sheep are a real trade

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Cattle are a lump less money in Thirsk today easy 15p some will be more, Very little enthusiasm ringside, Late starting as usual !!!
Sheep are a real trade

They got stocked up at darlo….was a big show