Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Skintagain]

No idea! The price fat lambs are at the moment has next to no bearing on what store lambs will be this backend, it’s what the fat trade is in the backend that dictates store trade

Whilst it is somewhat true 25-30kg beltex last year were making £100-110. They were bought on hope value

 

[Devil's advocate]

I think the Houthi thing must be having an impact. Likely a one off year I would say

Someone must be losing a lot of money in that case ie New Zealand sheep farmers. Not heard any complaints though from our NZ posters?

I don't know if this is 100% but I did here that abp were on £8/kg

needs to be, 25 kg carcase, £200

 

[Northern territory]

Someone must be losing a lot of money in that case ie New Zealand sheep farmers. Not heard any complaints though from our NZ posters?

needs to be, 25 kg carcase, £200

They were always going dear this spring due to last year’s low numbers but I think a perfect storm has occurred. I didn’t see them going to such highs. Hopefully it lasts a few weeks as I have some on roots that are a bit off yet.

 

[Macsky]

Someone must be losing a lot of money in that case ie New Zealand sheep farmers. Not heard any complaints though from our NZ posters?

needs to be, 25 kg carcase, £200

I’m sure I saw an Ozzie post somewhere the other day bemoaning the price of lamb, can’t find it now tho.

 

[Moors Lad]

needs to be, 25 kg carcase, £200

I think they only pay on max of 23k (recently lifted from 22k) ... I THINK

 

[jackstor]

Whilst it is somewhat true 25-30kg beltex last year were making £100-110. They were bought on hope value

All store lambs are bought on hope value

 

[Devil's advocate]

They were always going dear this spring due to last year’s low numbers but I think a perfect storm has occurred. I didn’t see them going to such highs. Hopefully it lasts a few weeks as I have some on roots that are a bit off yet.

People saying they were cheap last year. True enougth, but they rallied right at the end of the season.

My neighbour who is also my second cousin. Likes a really easy simple system, rents some land out for others to mow & bale, some to graze with cattle & some to reseed plus some to grow root crops on. Buys a load of small lambs October & sells in April/May off grass, low input & usually a good output.

I prefer to breed, closed flock etc, we are all different.

 

[jackstor]

Disagree. Often seen folk paying good money for stores when the fat trade is nothing special at the time

Nearly always stores look dear compared to fat!
But fat lambs are £180+ at the moment and stores will be£140, but if fat lambs are £100 in September, stores won’t be £140

 

[ritchiekirkland]

I don't know if this is 100% but I did here that abp were on £8/kg

Heard that too

 

[Skintagain]

Nearly always stores look dear compared to fat!
But fat lambs are £180+ at the moment and stores will be£140, but if fat lambs are £100 in September, stores won’t be £140

Nice beltex medium/smalls will be over fat price if fats are only £100

 

[jackstor]

Nice beltex medium/smalls will be over fat price if fats are only £100

Most likely, but it’s relative to the fat price in the back end, not to what the fat price is now

 

[Skintagain]

Most likely, but it’s relative to the fat price in the back end, not to what the fat price is now

But if they were relative to fat price they would make same ppk but they can be double

 

[Top Tip.]

Nearly always stores look dear compared to fat!
But fat lambs are £180+ at the moment and stores will be£140, but if fat lambs are £100 in September, stores won’t be £140

Grass availability comes into it as well. Good grass season makes a big difference.

 

[Skintagain]

Grass availability comes into it as well. Good grass season makes a big difference.

100%. Another 2018 and their will be tears

 

[jendan]

I think the Houthi thing must be having an impact. Likely a one off year I would say

Container ships from New Zealand to the UK go by Cape Horn,so dont go in the Red Sea or through the Suez canal.

Unless they are unloading at other ports on the journey.

It takes about 7 weeks,so if any NZ lamb is coming here,it would be all planned well in advance.

 

[harperfarmer]

All this talk of what stores will be the autumn and current trade being through the roof which is fantastic but I feel for the guys round here who've had an absolutely kicking with Schmallenberg. Spoke to a man today who has 250 ewes in a field with no lambs on as a result. And heard from a reliable source of another man who lambs big numbers, who's put 1100 lambs in the dead bin. It's seems several round here have had as bad a lambing as they can remember as a result of it. The strange thing is the inconsistency because you then get a man just down the road from someone who's really suffered and they haven't lost a lamb with it. Bizarre.

 

[livestock 1]

All this talk of what stores will be the autumn and current trade being through the roof which is fantastic but I feel for the guys round here who've had an absolutely kicking with Schmallenberg. Spoke to a man today who has 250 ewes in a field with no lambs on as a result. And heard from a reliable source of another man who lambs big numbers, who's put 1100 lambs in the dead bin. It's seems several round here have had as bad a lambing as they can remember as a result of it. The strange thing is the inconsistency because you then get a man just down the road from someone who's really suffered and they haven't lost a lamb with it. Bizarre.

No one knows where or when it will appear next

 

[sheepwise]

I don't know if this is 100% but I did here that abp were on £8/kg

Been quoted £8 as a minimum for next week.

 

[jackstor]

But if they were relative to fat price they would make same ppk but they can be double

Yes, smaller sheep are usually more ppk than heavier ones.
My point was that the price of stores in the back end has very little relevance to what the fat is doing now

 

[Macsky]

All this talk of what stores will be the autumn and current trade being through the roof which is fantastic but I feel for the guys round here who've had an absolutely kicking with Schmallenberg. Spoke to a man today who has 250 ewes in a field with no lambs on as a result. And heard from a reliable source of another man who lambs big numbers, who's put 1100 lambs in the dead bin. It's seems several round here have had as bad a lambing as they can remember as a result of it. The strange thing is the inconsistency because you then get a man just down the road from someone who's really suffered and they haven't lost a lamb with it. Bizarre.

Different breeds?