Beet 23

[Breckland Boy]

Can you put liquid 2lts/ha Mn in with Centuion Max please?

Yes,
Just done a Mn, Insyst, Centurion, Xclude mix.

 

[robbie]

Yes,
Just done a Mn, Insyst, Centurion, Xclude mix.

What's Xclude please? And curious, why centurion max??? Surely you don't have BG and falcon, fusillade shogun ect would do oats, volunteers, couch ect.

 

[Flat 10]

What's Xclude please? And curious, why centurion max??? Surely you don't have BG and falcon, fusillade shogun ect would do oats, volunteers, couch ect.

Water conditioner

 

[robbie]

Water conditioner

Gotcha. Similar to the old xchange I guess, or the same stuff with a new name and price tag!!!

 

[Breckland Boy]

What's Xclude please? And curious, why centurion max??? Surely you don't have BG and falcon, fusillade shogun ect would do oats, volunteers, couch ect.

Unfortunately I have BG in one field. Imported straw for over wintered parsnips.

 

[Breckland Boy]

Gotcha. Similar to the old xchange I guess, or the same stuff with a new name and price tag!!!

Agree its not cheap. Same as xchange. But I want to get rid of the BG and it does help.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Anyone seen any aphids about? Or is it too fecking cold?

 

[Breckland Boy]

Anyone seen any aphids about? Or is it too fecking cold?

Yes, all done with teppeki. Non cruiser beet

 

[Heathland]

Anyone seen any aphids about? Or is it too fecking cold?

If there is they are probably huddled
together to keep warm,so easy to spot.

 

[alomy75]

Not seen or heard of any; most agronomists are going because it ‘feels about the right time’ on the grapevine round here. I’m carrying on with my zero tolerance policy ie zero tolerance to foliar insecticides irrespective of what I see/hear 🫣

 

[Flat 10]

Not seen or heard of any; most agronomists are going because it ‘feels about the right time’ on the grapevine round here. I’m carrying on with my zero tolerance policy ie zero tolerance to foliar insecticides irrespective of what I see/hear 🫣

do you have a zero tolerance to VY?

 

[alomy75]

do you have a zero tolerance to VY?

I’m all for the seed treatments; they’re a no brainer if your rotation allows but there are too many variables and potential negative consequences of foliar applied products for me to get on board

 

[Flat 10]

I’m all for the seed treatments; they’re a no brainer if your rotation allows but there are too many variables and potential negative consequences of foliar applied products for me to get on board

I’m very anti insecticides but if the beet were bad with aphids I’d spray. Can’t afford bad virus yellows

 

[robbie]

I’m very anti insecticides but if the beet were bad with aphids I’d spray. Can’t afford bad virus yellows

Me to, everytime I have to spray my beet with insecticide I want to slap a DEFRA minister.

 

[robbie]

Good news....I think, we've got the use of revystar this autumn. I haven't looked into it yet but hopefully it'll golive us a good cerosporia chem if we need it.

 

[alomy75]

I’m very anti insecticides but if the beet were bad with aphids I’d spray. Can’t afford bad virus yellows

I know where you’re coming from…if it’s a hard decision; leave a boom section unsprayed; see if you can see it at harvest. It’s the only way to know if it was worthwhile or not

 

[Flat 10]

I know where you’re coming from…if it’s a hard decision; leave a boom section unsprayed; see if you can see it at harvest. It’s the only way to know if it was worthwhile or not

My unsprayed winter cereals have bad bydv this time….. and the first bad beet yellows year my reluctance to spray cost me I’m sure. it’s expensive to have principles. Not at threshold this year yet though

 

[robbie]

Principles are nice but they don't pay the bills. If the government are so dumb they want us spraying insecticides rather than allowing a few GM's/ha to be placing on the seed then sod them.

 

[alomy75]

My unsprayed winter cereals have bad bydv this time….. and the first bad beet yellows year my reluctance to spray cost me I’m sure. it’s expensive to have principles. Not at threshold this year yet though

Apologies if I’ve posted this before…that first bad year; I did actually spray. The whole 50ac field was a patchwork of yellow circles; approx 50% coverage come harvest. Beet was scorched on the overlaps. The other block (another 50ac) didn’t get sprayed and had way less infection and yielded more. Conclusions; beneficials were killed; beet was harmed; looking for aphids is a waste of time as I could have sampled the whole field and missed every single one (50% infection = 50% absolutely fine). This is why agro’s just recommend it when it’s about time as a grower will never thank them for not doing so. Added to all that; resistance and even if you do find aphids only a small % will be carrying virus?! Too much of a long shot for me; nothing to do with principles. I’d nuke the bar stewards if I thought I had a fighting chance of doing any good (hence the seed trt). Each to their own though; I respect that everyone is different. I do push my luck an awful lot with beet growing

 

[Daniel]

I’m here to perform the public service of making you all feel better about your beet:

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