Reading a thread about high fert prices and some farmers are asking for the government to step in and subsidies the price. Then another thread suggesting the government should help subsidies fuel prices. Farmers must get more government hand outs then a black single mother in a council flat with a crack addiction…..yet like most junkies still see it is their divine right to ask for more. What is worse is the constant lambasting of the general public, be it cyclists, vegetarians, dog walkers, people who live in towns, people who live in the country but don’t farm! If this is you and I’ve struck a nerve I don’t care….
Begging bowls again…
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Don't tar us all with the same brush, in every bit of society there are vociferous entitled individuals, eg the vegans. They do not represent the majority.
Wellytrack
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I dare say being a single parent is a harder job than most. I have no idea why it is held up as the epitome of excessive entitlement.
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Morning Mr Eustace
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Thanks for your support
Very welcome in this hostile world
Very welcome in this hostile world
Chris123
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can’t think of many more businesses that absorb rises of prices like we do, the arable boys have had a massive price lift to help pay for the rise in fert, fuel and spray. But will they be any better off margin wise I suspect not just more capital invested for the same return. Livestock are the real losers in the last few months to offset the rise in fert and fuel here we would need to see a rise in the price of lamb and beef we sell of about 35p kg liveweight
Oh well. We are in for interesting times. The " We'll get our food from other countries " threat is about to be removed. Dole money that has kept us jogging along producing food at 1970's prices is coming to an end. How many of us will continue as a hobby remains to be seen. It's going to be a lean time over the next few years for farmer hating Monbiot types.
As for me, planting as much food in the garden as I can......Fudge um.
As for me, planting as much food in the garden as I can......Fudge um.
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I'd suggest more folk want the govt to leave agriculture alone rather than control it an either end.
matthew
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Gov.uk are unlikely to reduce or help out in any way the price of fuel when a big proportion of the retail price is tax of one variety or another. Follow the money.
SilliamWhale
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For a bloke you have a worringly big wardrobe...
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I kind of agree with you, but with a caveat.
If their is a government policy and aim to make food as cheap as possible to the general public (and by if, I mean obviously their is) then in times of massive input inflation then obviously their also has to be massive inflation on food as well, otherwise their has to be a mechanism to bring the gap.
Now I know people will say wheat has doubled in three year, but in real terms, food makes up the smallest percentage of household spending than at any time in history.
I apologise for trying to bring some reason to the thread as the opening post is clearly just a rant
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More questions than answers there @Derrick Hughes .....you in silly clothes dawn to dusk? You at home or in the charity shop strutting in your long Johns?you run out of razor blades etc etc
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serf
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Institutionalised ! take a day or two to breed it out the system ....
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The problem isn't that we as a country support single mothers, it is rather, we as a country have created a system that encourages fathers to absent themselves from their responsibilities (and the state has taken over their role). Don't "victim blame", blame fleckless fathers.
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Little analogy.
Imagine all farmers were smokers and BPS were the fags.
Probably 80% would light up with a smile on their face. 10% wouldn’t smoke at all, and the other ten percent would constantly tell people they could give up at any time they wanted whilst angrily chain smoking as many black John Players as they possible can!
I went to a meeting last week about our future and possible funding etc, one semi retired farmer I know ( who hasn't actively farmed just let it all out for some time) could not get it out of his head that ELMS wasn't a replacement for SFP, and it wasn't going to match up! obviously suddenly wondering where the golf club subscription was coming from.