Behaviour towards dealers

[Hilly]

I would hazard a guess a dozen or so.

Well a manager wont cost much per hour …. 3 -5 quid hr ?

 

[hally]

Just makes farms get bigger thus less farms thus less dealer vicious circle ..

No doubt that's the way it will go, shame really

 

[Hilly]

No doubt that's the way it will go, shame really

Been going that way all my life ….. never stops

 

[TomD]

Anything over £50-60 is taking the pee in my eyes .

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Technician on 40k which is 800 a week so £20 covers him, double it for overheads add £10 profit do £50/hour adequate. When the sub goes all this needs to be paid for from diminished ag income.......killing the golden goose comes to mind.

If that’s the case why do you not open a dealership and charge £60 an hour and you’ll be making £20 per hour profit per mechanic if it’s that easy -and you’ll still be cheaper than most so you’ll be really busy and make a fortune

 

[Hilly]

If that’s the case why do you not open a dealership and charge £60 an hour and you’ll be making £20 per hour profit per mechanic if it’s that easy -and you’ll still be cheaper than most so you’ll be really busy and make a fortune

How do you know indont already .

 

[hally]

If that’s the case why do you not open a dealership and charge £60 an hour and you’ll be making £20 per hour profit per mechanic if it’s that easy -and you’ll still be cheaper than most so you’ll be really busy and make a fortune....

.....because I am a farmer and have no interest in doing that. What's your point?

 

[TomD]

.....because I am a farmer and have no interest in doing that. What's your point?

Copied you in by mistake

 

[TomD]

.....because I am a farmer and have no interest in doing that. What's your point?

You make it sound so easy to make money

 

[lloyd]

Well a manager wont cost much per hour …. 3 -5 quid hr ?

Plus deputy manager,secretaries,accounts person ,training etc
rates,capital expenditure on buildings for ever larger machinery ie Combines and SP foragers.
Their costs are enormous and stress levels must be high, i dont envy the owners one bit even
though they've had a good run last few years.

 

[Hilly]

Plus deputy manager,secretaries,accounts person ,training etc
rates,capital expenditure on buildings for ever larger machinery ie Combines and SP foragers.
Their costs are enormous and stress levels must be high, i dont envy the owners one bit even
though they've had a good run last few years.

Their choice to have all that some dont same as farming , plenty farmers keep it sensible for good reason

 

[hally]

You make it sound so easy to make money

Is that not my point, it is not easy to make enough money, in a post subsidy world, to keep every supplier in the way they have become accustomed to. Change is on its way.

 

[lloyd]

Their choice to have all that some dont same as farming , plenty farmers keep it sensible for good reason

Your right that by being small you can keep the costs down but getting a customèr
going quickly at harvest time or other critical times of the year can be
very valuable .What price do you put on that?

 

[Hilly]

Your right that by being small you can keep the costs down but getting a customèr
going quickly at harvest time or other critical times of the year can be
very valuable .What price do you put on that?

All relative , big firms have massive inefficiencys ie % of arseholes employed straight away , small family firms usually farm better staff ….. controversial but is what i see

 

[lloyd]

All relative , big firms have massive inefficiencys ie % of arseholes employed straight away , small family firms usually farm better staff ….. controversial but is what i see

Not many of the latter around here unfortunately.
It's either big concerns or one man bands who will
be with you in six weeks time if your lucky.

 

[Hilly]

Not many of the latter around here unfortunately.

So the big boys finish the litte men off , they cant complain then …

 

[Goweresque]

Try watching police videos on YouTube etc. The way they get treated by the public is appalling.
It's the modern world. I don't like it

However the police themselves are not exactly the most upright and honest people themselves are they? There's plenty of non-police authorised videos floating around the internet showing the police demonstrating every vice from blatant lying to unprovoked violence. And thats before one even considers the London Met.........

 

[MF CI]

A quick Google suggests P+B in 2021 had a turnover of 66 million and come away with a pre tax profit of 800,000. Yes it's a lot of money but you could do much better investing elsewhere.

 

[lloyd]

So the big boys finish the litte men off , they cant complain then …

Same as livestock finishing .

 

[Hilly]

Same as livestock finishing .

Lots of firms /people think once they rid the litte men they get it all their own way ,,, rarely works imo …

 

[lloyd]

Lots of firms /people think once they rid the litte men they get it all their own way ,,, rarely works imo …

Well no because then they turn on each other.