Best Mounted Fertiliser spreader in 2023?

JJT

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Cumbria
When we bought our Kuhn Axis 30.1 in 2007, the first thing we did was get another pair of hydraulic hoses so we had a spool valve lever for each disc.

The Kuhn is still spreading fine but starting to look old. Can you still buy a simple spreader without electronics?
Can still get a 30.2 kuhn that just works on a spool valve.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
When we bought our Kuhn Axis 30.1 in 2007, the first thing we did was get another pair of hydraulic hoses so we had a spool valve lever for each disc.

The Kuhn is still spreading fine but starting to look old. Can you still buy a simple spreader without electronics?
Yes seen a new kuhn the other day with no electrics
 

Mad Farmer

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
We are looking to renew our Kuhn H 4.2 W EMC Isobus for next season. Will probably stick with Kuhn as it has been faultless. Section control works really well and on and off is on tractor joystick. Only complaint is because its hydro you can’t reduce your disc speed as you come into the headland tramline and end up with a bit of underdosing as it turns off because it throws it so far back so we have to go in the opposite way next time through.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Just got a kuhn 30.2, full spec with isobus this spring. It has 16 sections and can shut sections down from the middle out.

Priced up kv as well not a lot in it price wise and would have been happy with either but kuhn dealer had a canceled order on the books which made it a good bit cheaper.

As someone said earlier, I think they are all pretty similar. But section control and weigh cells are awesome.....as long as they keep working!
Been told it’s a hell of a sight watching it from behind shutting down from the Center out guy said it defies physics 😂😂
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
We are looking to renew our Kuhn H 4.2 W EMC Isobus for next season. Will probably stick with Kuhn as it has been faultless. Section control works really well and on and off is on tractor joystick. Only complaint is because its hydro you can’t reduce your disc speed as you come into the headland tramline and end up with a bit of underdosing as it turns off because it throws it so far back so we have to go in the opposite way next time through.
Maybe you can’t alter it on an isobus but I had to move the behind offset on ours to compensate for that seems to have sorted it
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
We are looking to renew our Kuhn H 4.2 W EMC Isobus for next season. Will probably stick with Kuhn as it has been faultless. Section control works really well and on and off is on tractor joystick. Only complaint is because its hydro you can’t reduce your disc speed as you come into the headland tramline and end up with a bit of underdosing as it turns off because it throws it so far back so we have to go in the opposite way next time through.
What width are you at ?

It's an issue with them all at 24m unless you've got a very short tractor.

The Amazone has a system that throws a couple of meters further into the field when it's engaged to try to overcome the issue but ill still be doing my fields the opposite way next time to make sure .
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
It turns it off as we are about to turn on tramline so can’t really alter it from that.
we are on 24m so maybe better if we were on 30m
They're all like that only way is to go through a wee bit and reverse back.

On my old kuhn hydro drive it changed the drop point for headland it was an axera before the axis and I used to border spread on both sides at the same time so did 12m to the hedge and 16/18 into the field and that helped a lot
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
9th season just fin yest with my from new KV TL Geo 24m here.
All original Actuators still !
Its had according to info on screen 1490tons of Product thru it.
Covered over 7700ha
Paintwork is still as good as new on it.
One set of new vanes just over a year ago & slight issue with one gearbox but it was all poss being down to being to full with oil
only later pointed out by KV Rep too this fact.
Switched to UREA Coated stuff this year (Origin) bagged stuff
on a whole its found a near enough setting but slight stripping in some oats & poss one field of wheat & this was only at 140/160kg rates
chucked 230kg/ha on wb & osr & not a single issue.
KV Updated Software on machine & screen last backend & i think thats fixed a few gremlins i was having with it crashing odd times.
moved it too a new tractor n linked the GPS signal thru Novatel Receiver on the tractor its getting upto 20 satellites now
max of 13/14 with the KV receiver.
Honest view id have another tomorrow.
But try n keep this one going as long as poss in the meantime.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Cheers KV Geo Spread still gets my vote. its a 9/10 from me
Only wish the likes of Origin branded fert actually was on KVs database

Interesting. I thought the advantage of the KV was that you could enter the density and granule/prill size percentage using the shaker box to get the setting.
I’m thinking about going back to solid fertiliser after having been liquid for 7 or 8 years because we’ve had a bit of solid again this year and have really appreciated this spring not having to wait a few days between fertiliser applications and spraying. I’ve got an Amazone ZAM that is at least 27 years old and still does a very good job, however I’m thinking about upgrading. At the moment the choice looks between the Bogballe and KV Geospread, the bit that was swaying it for me was the KV ability to be set according to how the product tested and not rely on manufacturer test data so now your post is making me think again.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Interesting. I thought the advantage of the KV was that you could enter the density and granule/prill size percentage using the shaker box to get the setting.
I’m thinking about going back to solid fertiliser after having been liquid for 7 or 8 years because we’ve had a bit of solid again this year and have really appreciated this spring not having to wait a few days between fertiliser applications and spraying. I’ve got an Amazone ZAM that is at least 27 years old and still does a very good job, however I’m thinking about upgrading. At the moment the choice looks between the Bogballe and KV Geospread, the bit that was swaying it for me was the KV ability to be set according to how the product tested and not rely on manufacturer test data so now your post is making me think again.
Consider a kuhn not even got to set it with a shaker box and weight 💪🏻
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
Interesting. I thought the advantage of the KV was that you could enter the density and granule/prill size percentage using the shaker box to get the setting.
I’m thinking about going back to solid fertiliser after having been liquid for 7 or 8 years because we’ve had a bit of solid again this year and have really appreciated this spring not having to wait a few days between fertiliser applications and spraying. I’ve got an Amazone ZAM that is at least 27 years old and still does a very good job, however I’m thinking about upgrading. At the moment the choice looks between the Bogballe and KV Geospread, the bit that was swaying it for me was the KV ability to be set according to how the product tested and not rely on manufacturer test data so now your post is making me think again.
It does work like that most of the time as with all spreaders. But there's always a chance of it not working 100 %
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Interesting. I thought the advantage of the KV was that you could enter the density and granule/prill size percentage using the shaker box to get the setting.
I’m thinking about going back to solid fertiliser after having been liquid for 7 or 8 years because we’ve had a bit of solid again this year and have really appreciated this spring not having to wait a few days between fertiliser applications and spraying. I’ve got an Amazone ZAM that is at least 27 years old and still does a very good job, however I’m thinking about upgrading. At the moment the choice looks between the Bogballe and KV Geospread, the bit that was swaying it for me was the KV ability to be set according to how the product tested and not rely on manufacturer test data so now your post is making me think again.
If there isnt anything on the KV fert list that matches up what the shaker box gives you & your weight of a litre of product then its a guessing game
If there is one flaw it poss has then thats it.
I'll just add if its a 100% known product your laughing.
Nitram being the prime example & it spreads that 100% accurate year after year
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
If there isnt anything on the KV fert list that matches up what the shaker box gives you & your weight of a litre of product then its a guessing game
If there is one flaw it poss has then thats it.
I'll just add if its a 100% known product your laughing.
Nitram being the prime example & it spreads that 100% accurate year after year
Prime example of it not working is sulphur cut it was on the app in the book etc . I stripped everything with it .

I put it over the trays and it was spreading too wide so I pulled it more behind the tractor got a level test and still striped nothing serous but I could see it especially in oats buy it would have been a lot worse if I'd left it alone.

Best example I have of the shaker box test and picking a random fert that was the same weight and size was the day kv did my demo in 2016 Les just picked something close I spread the 50 acre field at 300 kgs hec and it was spot on not a stripe in sight .

It's always been sulphur stuff I've had issues with it happen with yara sulphan this year as well I didn't tray test it as it was raining and just said iton the list it'll be fine it's good fert but no striped with it. But as you say it's fine with nitram year after year .
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Prime example of it not working is sulphur cut it was on the app in the book etc . I stripped everything with it .

I put it over the trays and it was spreading too wide so I pulled it more behind the tractor got a level test and still striped nothing serous but I could see it especially in oats buy it would have been a lot worse if I'd left it alone.

Best example I have of the shaker box test and picking a random fert that was the same weight and size was the day kv did my demo in 2016 Les just picked something close I spread the 50 acre field at 300 kgs hec and it was spot on not a stripe in sight .

It's always been sulphur stuff I've had issues with it happen with yara sulphan this year as well I didn't tray test it as it was raining and just said iton the list it'll be fine it's good fert but no striped with it. But as you say it's fine with nitram year after year .
had origins 26n 35So3 year after year thru mine not a single issue.
It seems to find something in its settings for the shaker box results & just went with it
heck even polysulphate is in its list & i used that for the first time this season.
Not a single Origin product in its list tho
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
had origins 26n 35So3 year after year thru mine not a single issue.
It seems to find something in its settings for the shaker box results & just went with it
heck even polysulphate is in its list & i used that for the first time this season.
Not a single Origin product in its list tho
To be honest I had more bother over the years of kuhn and kv with kemira cf and yara than I had with crap blends with stripping.

Got a whole new learning curve now tho . Never used an Amazone till 2 weeks ago so thing's are a bit different now .

I had 3 kv spreaders and had 2 actuators go wrong the first machine had an intermittent fault on 1 but managed to finish the season.

The last machine was 1 yr old and one went wrong in 1 length of the field it went from fine to fault code to couldn't even work manually unfortunately the spreader wasn't covered by warranty and I was waiting for my new machine to arrive when it went wrong . Luckily a different dealer had 1 on the shelf and I was working again 5 hrs later .
 

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