Black grass

[Dman2]

So
Finally succumbed to the dreaded black grass. Only 1 field fortunately and must have come in seed
plan to work stubble to get it to chit, then spray off
Am I right in thinking it just needs tickling on the top and not too deep to get it to chit?

 

[Pan mixer]

So
Finally succumbed to the dreaded black grass. Only 1 field fortunately and must have come in seed
plan to work stubble to get it to chit, then spray off
Am I right in thinking it just needs tickling on the top and not too deep to get it to chit?

and roll it after the tickling.

 

[AlphaBravoPapaSux]

So
Finally succumbed to the dreaded black grass. Only 1 field fortunately and must have come in seed
plan to work stubble to get it to chit, then spray off
Am I right in thinking it just needs tickling on the top and not too deep to get it to chit?

If you can rogue it you will save yourself a lot of work in the long run

 

[HarryB97]

Walk round with the nap sack if it’s not to bad, once it seeds it’ll spread!

 

[deleted user 837354]

If the plants are in the rows with the corn it came in your seed.

 

[ajd132]

Spray it off

 

[deleted user 837354]

Spraying it off if it is just one field and a modest area may well be the best option before it has a chance to set and drop seed.

 

[Fish]

How bad is it ? If just a few random plants, get on and hand rouge it before it sheds and save a world full of hurt.
Wild life and balers are the main culprits re spread.

 

[tr250]

How bad is it ? If just a few random plants, get on and hand rouge it before it sheds and save a world full of hurt.
Wild life and balers are the main culprits re spread.

I’d say combines are far worse but generally stay on one farm and mostly in the growers control. We run both a baler and a combine and it’s the combine that holds the seed mainly in the header 95% of the seed is on the floor not in the swath by the time the baler gets there but get your point that balers move round more and do more acres a year generally

 

[solo]

Hand rogueing is the most effective if numbers are low But you have to bend down to pull all the tillers. Knapsack sprayer will work but black grass tends to set viable seed before you can see it to spray off. I have been using both these methods and am slowly making progress. I’ve pulled 10 whilst knapsac spraying ryegrass In about 20 acres this morning. Problem started about 10 years ago with a contract baler.

 

[Dman2]

9ac field and numbers are not low
Rest of wheat looks well
No back end sprays this year so lots of grass weeds around, other than the barley which is lovely and clean

 

[Sam Partridge]

if no seed heads kill it now! Or wholecrop into AD? Or wholecrop into a pile to rot and never touch again?

 

[deleted user 837354]

9ac field and numbers are not low
Rest of wheat looks well
No back end sprays this year so lots of grass weeds around, other than the barley which is lovely and clean

I'd be spraying it off I think.

 

[RushesToo]

However you do it kill it now, it will be a cheap loss or you will be paying every year.
Don't skimp, you will regret it.

 

[snipe]

Have you any stock, could cut and wrap it.

 

[Dman2]

Have you any stock, could cut and wrap it.

Would silaging it kill the seeds, or will they survive and spread through the muck spreader?

 

[Two Tone]

I have sprayed off 16ha of Winter Barley today.
Part of which was one entire field. I’ve never done that before.
Wouldn’t surprise me to have to do some more in the not to distant.

I might try to plant some sort of cover, possibly White Millet and/or Mustard with my GD.

 

[snipe]

Would silaging it kill the seeds, or will they survive and spread through the muck spreader?

If you could cut it before the seed is viable.

 

[snarling bee]

As above. Spray the field off and hope that all the seed germinated so nothing comes up next year.
Please listen to us, I think you will regret it otherwise. First loss is your best loss.

Edit. I KNOW you will regret it if you don't.

 

[ajd132]

As above. Spray the field off and hope that all the seed germinated so nothing comes up next year.
Please listen to us, I think you will regret it otherwise. First loss is your best loss.

going to take this approach with ryegrass when it inevitably gets here, from the niab weed maps it looks like it is both north and south of us creeping closer. learn from the past mistakes with black grass