Brexit article from The Economist

Y Fan Wen

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N W Snowdonia
I suppose it all comes down to how xenophobic you are.
Dirty Harry - ‘He ain’t prejudiced, he just hates everyone.'
Obviously there are advantages to exit or non exit but they would all have a marginal effect.
So it comes down to whether you think ‘frogs’ start at Calais and ‘wogs’ a little further on.
OTOH you could be like the Irishman who said ‘Isn’t the world round and us all on it’.
An attitude which I applaud wholeheartedly.
As I’ve said before, England votes out and the Celtic fringe votes in, then we can have our very own Balkans!
I would feel sorry for the border farmers tho’.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
That's a well reasoned article, not just because it reinforces my view, but it does talk about why some want to leave. I hadn't considered the wider view of a weaker Europe with the U.K.

Together we stand, divided we fall.
 

rob1

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Location
wiltshire
That's a well reasoned article, not just because it reinforces my view, but it does talk about why some want to leave. I hadn't considered the wider view of a weaker Europe with the U.K.

Together we stand, divided we fall.
There maybe some good reason for their theories but if that is the case then why didnt the rest of the EU make some decent concessions ? IMVHO its the arrogance and self interest of the rest of the EU they think if they chuck us a bone then the gravy train will carry on as before and they can continue with their grand plans to become the US of E and bugger what the citizens of europe want. Leaving will be a big jump into the dark but staying will lead us into a very dark place unless the politicians actually start to listen
 

Osca

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Location
Tayside
Would have expected better of the Economist. Don't know about well-reasoned, the writer of that article seemed to be making a lot of un-reasoned assumptions.
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
Seems to me to be a good article and reaffirms my suspicions that leaving the EU would not really result in the Utopian idyll that 90% of the press are promising us.
of course there is far too much meddling from the Eurocrats but I would seriously doubt that we would have any less bureaucracy if we left; the British are experts at it.

Leaving would probably also lead to the break up of the UK with Scotland demanding another vote on independence in order to attempt to rejoin Europe.
However IMO Europe is on the ropes as it is, if we left it would have a drastic effect on the EU, but that is no reason for us to vote 'in'.
 

caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
For Scotland to leave the UK in another vote would require a good number of former "no's" to change their minds and would also assume that every "yes" would want to stay in Euroland, which after all, would be the real question.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
For Scotland to leave the UK in another vote would require a good number of former "no's" to change their minds and would also assume that every "yes" would want to stay in Euroland, which after all, would be the real question.

I suppose it's a matter of which sinking ship Scotland prefers to be tied to.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Agree. I felt embarrassed at IDS the other week stating that if we left the EU the nasty men from ISIL may leave us alone. I am sure I could hear Sir Winston turning in his grave.
 

Pond digger

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East Yorkshire
There maybe some good reason for their theories but if that is the case then why didnt the rest of the EU make some decent concessions ? IMVHO its the arrogance and self interest of the rest of the EU they think if they chuck us a bone then the gravy train will carry on as before and they can continue with their grand plans to become the US of E and bugger what the citizens of europe want. Leaving will be a big jump into the dark but staying will lead us into a very dark place unless the politicians actually start to listen

Yes, it's a real irony; the other member states want us to remain, yet they make the decision to stay, more and more contentious. Personally, I'm not keen on either scenario, I just think it's no win either way.

I'm afraid, I blame the Germans and the French; they've got us into trouble before!
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Yes, it's a real irony; the other member states want us to remain, yet they make the decision to stay, more and more contentious. Personally, I'm not keen on either scenario, I just think it's no win either way.

I'm afraid, I blame the Germans and the French; they've got us into trouble before!

I suppose all the eastern European states are just thanking the UK for championing their admission to the EU.:banghead:
 

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