Brexit future is bright

[czechmate]

you not a member then ?

make you feel better ?[/QUOTE]


It's nice to get confirmation that not all UK farmers are barmy

 

[Henarar]

that's what I think when I come on here and find most have not left the country

 

[caveman]

There's the difference, it is here

And your point is

 

[Ashtree]

Wonder if the forces of occupation from Brussels are being replaced by a bigger threat from China? http://bloom.bg/2baC5gq

 

[glasshouse]

The price/cost of rent of the land itself in the uk puts the input of beef above the rest of the world?

true, but the land price here is totally artificial as you know, driven by forestry grants,tax concessions, sfp and rich people who want to shoot.
however, brexit is changing that and the real rental value of upland pasture is probably negative.

 

[jendan]

cereals only go down,
With the NZ dollar at 1.8 to the pound, they cannot undercut us in lamb.
Beef should be low input.

Cereals go up as well.They were plenty high enough in the first half of 2013.At £200 tonne,made compound on farm at £250 plus.This nearly bankrupted alot of livestock men who had to throw more and more feed at their stock to keep them going in that terrible cold march spring weather of that year. Low input beef to me is the Argentine,Australia,and some parts of Brazil.

 

[glasshouse]

Cereals go up as well.They were plenty high enough in the first half of 2013.At £200 tonne,made compound on farm at £250 plus.This nearly bankrupted alot of livestock men who had to throw more and more feed at their stock to keep them going in that terrible cold march spring weather of that year. Low input beef to me is the Argentine,Australia,and some parts of Brazil.

Cereals only went up in 12/13 due to the bad harvest, yes they were £200 /t but the yields were half, so no help to growers.
That yr was a lesson to all to keep fodder and feed in reserve.
I used to suffer from ridicule for having "untidy rows of bales " carried over sometimes for 3 yrs and silage too, but a lot of people were grateful for them that yr.

 

[jendan]

Cereals only went up in 12/13 due to the bad harvest, yes they were £200 /t but the yields were half, so no help to growers.
That yr was a lesson to all to keep fodder and feed in reserve.
I used to suffer from ridicule for having "untidy rows of bales " carried over sometimes for 3 yrs and silage too, but a lot of people were grateful for them that yr.

We had plenty fodder,but poor quality.The livestock needed more cake to make their condition better after the wet and sunless summer of 2012.Many stock farms around us have not got the land to grow cereals.

 

[Bossfarmer]

cereals are currently a waste of time

 

[Bossfarmer]

if subs go they will be an expensive waste of time

 

[czechmate]

that's what I think when I come on here and find most have not left the country

I suppose. When I meet the farmers around here (real time, not the www), it's hard to imagine two things. One, that there are actually any French farmers, farming in France now and two, that there are any british farmers farming in the uk. The reason being they/we all seem to have moved here!

 

[czechmate]

And your point is

More an observation than a "point".
If you can show me the forum rule that says every post must make a valid point then I will endeavour to comply.

 

[Henarar]

cereals are currently a waste of time

if subs go they will be an expensive waste of time

It will make no difference if the subs go apart from you won't have your subs, they have nothing to do with the fact that cereals are a waste of time, if indeed that is a fact

 

[Bossfarmer]

The subs help producers cover their costs in a poor year

 

[czechmate]

It will make no difference if the subs go apart from you won't have your subs, they have nothing to do with the fact that cereals are a waste of time, if indeed that is a fact[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?

 

[Henarar]

yes

 

[czechmate]

yes

Would be interested to see your costing to grow a tonne of wheat then?

 

[jockthethistle]

A Question for the BOSSFARMER have u made any representations to the NFU about forthcoming post brexit settlement with Westminster .. In regard with the special provision that NI gets at present .. Do you feel comfortable with the Irish in the north being helped to a far greater extent than other regions in the UK .. or would you like to see a level playing field in the future as it were ... Thoughts please. jtt

 

[Henarar]

Would be interested to see your costing to grow a tonne of wheat then?

I meant I was serious about the sub making no odds as to if it was worth growing
as to if it is worth growing I wouldn't know as I have never grown any, not my line

 

[glasshouse]

A Question for the BOSSFARMER have u made any representations to the NFU about forthcoming post brexit settlement with Westminster .. In regard with the special provision that NI gets at present .. Do you feel comfortable with the Irish in the north being helped to a far greater extent than other regions in the UK .. or would you like to see a level playing field in the future as it were ... Thoughts please. jtt

Northern ireland is always getting special help, they got to buy their landlords out 60 years ago, all funded by hm govt.