Brexit Party is over

[Agrivator]

The latest polling suggests that the Brexit Party is in terminal decline. Those of who are ardent leavers are forever grateful to Nigel for instigating the Referendum, but it is a relief that the Brexit Party candidates are now much less likely to split the Leave vote to the benfit of the Lib/Dems.

But how should we repay the debt we owe to him. The freedom of the UK perhaps.

PS. I will refuse to read any negative replies with unreasonable suggestions.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Farage is the stick to beat Labour, Conservative & Liberals with.

I cannot predict the outcome of this election .. but I do predict that if said parties do not perform then Farage will do very well.

 

[caveman]

The latest polling suggests that the Brexit Party is in terminal decline. Those of who are ardent leavers are forever grateful to Nigel for instigating the Referendum, but it is a relief that the Brexit Party candidates are now much less likely to split the Leave vote to the benfit of the Lib/Dems.

But how should we repay the debt we owe to him. The freedom of the UK perhaps.

PS. I will refuse to read any negative replies with unreasonable suggestions.

Woah there.
They could well be the King makers yet.
Bet they're cranking oodles more up north than the 3/4% that keeps getting bandied about on national radio.
Doubt many are saying they intend to vote BP where the BP are not standing.
I have four choices.
Tory.
Labour.
Lib Dem.
Greens.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I voted Brexit in the Euros but wouldn't give them a vote in General . Farage has done a service to politics and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him yet . ......politics would be too dull !!!!
I also have four choices
Tory
Stay at home
Fall asleep
Go to pub

 

[uztrac]

Nigel has done a massive service to this country and its people,he has exposed the utter un democratic eu for what it is.We have not seen the last of The Brexit Party either,I await with interest to see the results on 13th December,also I do not believe the pollsters until all the votes are counted. Go well Nigel !!!

 

[Danllan]

I'm a republican and not keen on the Lords either but, if Nigel isn't awarded a peerage after the political dross from all the other parties (SF accepted) have got them, well, it just shows what a bunch or ars*s inhabit Westminster. Regardless of whether or not you like his politics, he has made an enormous difference to the politics of the UK, far, far less effective individuals have been elevated to the peerage for far, far less.

As for the Brexit Party, I contributed to it and voted for it in the EU elections and, like UKIP before it, it's served its purpose i.e. set the Conservative Party on the straight and narrow. A job well done, I hope, and now it can fade into obscurity.

But, if Boris remains in No 10 and doesn't deliver Brexit, it might have to start again...

 

[ollie989898]

I don't think we have seen the last of Mr Farage unless he is completely abandoned by voters in the election. He is looking for political revolution.

 

[Hindsight]

I'm a republican and not keen on the Lords either but, if Nigel isn't awarded a peerage after the political dross from all the other parties (SF accepted) have got them, well, it just shows what a bunch or ars*s inhabit Westminster. Regardless of whether or not you like his politics, he has made an enormous difference to the politics of the UK, far, far less effective individuals have been elevated to the peerage for far, far less.

As for the Brexit Party, I contributed to it and voted for it in the EU elections and, like UKIP before it, it's served its purpose i.e. set the Conservative Party on the straight and narrow. A job well done, I hope, and now it can fade into obscurity.

But, if Boris remains in No 10 and doesn't deliver Brexit, it might have to start again...

Did you and do you subscribe to the broader manifesto policy pledges of The Brexit Party and before that UKIP? Just helps me a little more understand the current Conservative Party.

 

[Smith31]

Does this confirm that Nigel really isn't that popular after all? There was me thinking he would easily win the next election the way some were building his popularity up on here

 

[Danllan]

Did you and do you subscribe to the broader manifesto policy pledges of The Brexit Party and before that UKIP? Just helps me a little more understand the current Conservative Party.

There are so many to go through, you'll have to ask me on an issue by issue basis.

However, in general... I'm a social liberal but an economic conservative. But I joined UKIP and subscribed to the BP solely on the basis of getting an in-out referendum on the EU and then, after having had the vote, seeing the result of the referendum acted upon.

I've no 'loyalty' to any particular party, although I do favour more of what the Tories advocate than any of the other parties. But, if they changed their tack significantly, I'd drop them without a second thought.

 

[Agrivator]

I'm a republican and not keen on the Lords either but.....

An interesting possibility, maybe when Charles is just about to take over.

So, in the event of the UK becoming a Republic, who should be its first President?

Tony Blair, Jo Brand, Nigel Farage, Brian May, Alec Salmond, An embalmed David Attenborough, the list is endless.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

An interesting possibility, maybe when Charles is just about to take over.

So, in the event of the UK becoming a Republic, who should be its first President?

Tony Blair, Jo Brand, Nigel Farage, Brian May, Alec Salmond, An embalmed David Attenborough, the list is endless.

Anne Widdecombe for me !

 

[M-J-G]

Does this confirm that Nigel really isn't that popular after all? There was me thinking he would easily win the next election the way some were building his popularity up on here

He himself is not popular, his voice of a billion fags and his cartoon villain like appearance are not generally appealing.

His ideology is popular, but it seems not to be enough.

Cummings was more important in the Brexit campaign than the likes of Nigel IMO.

 

[Hindsight]

There are so many to go through, you'll have to ask me on an issue by issue basis.

However, in general... I'm a social liberal but an economic conservative. But I joined UKIP and subscribed to the BP solely on the basis of getting an in-out referendum on the EU and then, after having had the vote, seeing the result of the referendum acted upon.

I've no 'loyalty' to any particular party, although I do favour more of what the Tories advocate than any of the other parties. But, if they changed their tack significantly, I'd drop them without a second thought.

Thank you for replying. Can appreciate that position. A good description. And sentiment that I hear from other folk though worded differently. Does as with other folk I speak with illustrate the depth of feeling around leaving the EU compared with broader political stance. An interesting couple of days ahead on the 12 and 13 December.

 

[Danllan]

An interesting possibility, maybe when Charles is just about to take over.

So, in the event of the UK becoming a Republic, who should be its first President?

Tony Blair, Jo Brand, Nigel Farage, Brian May, Alec Salmond, An embalmed David Attenborough, the list is endless.

David Attenborough aside, embalmed or otherwise, those listed above (including Nigel) and others like them are just about the best argument possible for retaining a monarchy...

That written, in any case it should be much smaller, the monarch, spouse and the next three heirs only. Binning the Lords is simple enough, it could still even be called the Lords for all I care and the title of Lord or Lady retained too for those sitting there, but it shouldn't be for life - that's the big problem I have with it.

The unelected bit I can live with, if it were for, say, eleven year terms; allowing immediate nomination gives us the chance to get really brilliant people into public service quickly when necessary. Nominations on the basis of merit, not past service to a party or political affiliate. Re-nomination should be an option too, no problem with that. Bu, it mustn't be for life and the title goes when you stop sitting. Oh, and it should be a house without party groups.

...Cummings was more important in the Brexit campaign than the likes of Nigel IMO.

There wouldn't have been a 'Brexit campaign' but for Nigel.

Thank you for replying. Can appreciate that position. A good description. And sentiment that I hear from other folk though worded differently. Does as with other folk I speak with illustrate the depth of feeling around leaving the EU compared with broader political stance. An interesting couple of days ahead on the 12 and 13 December.

Leaving the EU is, for me, of fundamental importance to the regaining and the retaining of our democracy and our sovereignty, it's that simple. I think that without these things we cease, either in large steps or by small increments, to be free - that's why it is of supreme important to me.

Trading certainly is easier with EU states when one is a member state, but I don't subscribe to the 'it will be awful forever' propaganda; it just doesn't make sense when examined calmly. Trade always finds a way, Canada has a free-trade deal, Japan etc.. So will we, if it takes one year or ten years I'm not worried, because the key matters of principle will have been established and saved.

I don't often get nervous about things, elections included; but there is so much at stake this time that I'll admit to some nerves... I've a Labour friend in London who is a borough councillor and was intending to stand for Parliament, but chose not to while JC is his leader. He wouldn't vote Tory, but he can't bring himself to vote for Labour this time, despite a lifetime of membership.

He fears what even a single term of JC would do to the country and, he'll admit in private, to his party.
I trust this fellow's opinion as much as any other I know of and far more than most - he thinks that if JC gets a working majority he will rip up his manifesto on day one...

(He has also heard some rumours that I'll start another thread about.)

 

[M-J-G]

There wouldn't have been a 'Brexit campaign' but for Nigel.

I don't dispute that, I was referring to him and his appeal not his influence in bringing about an referendum.

Cummings knew that if Nigel were the face of Brexit it would not have done the campaign any favours.

 

[jendan]

David Attenborough aside, embalmed or otherwise, those listed above (including Nigel) and others like them are just about the best argument possible for retaining a monarchy...

That written, in any case it should be much smaller, the monarch, spouse and the next three heirs only. Binning the Lords is simple enough, it could still even be called the Lords for all I care and the title of Lord or Lady retained too for those sitting there, but it shouldn't be for life - that's the big problem I have with it.

The unelected bit I can live with, if it were for, say, eleven year terms; allowing immediate nomination gives us the chance to get really brilliant people into public service quickly when necessary. Nominations on the basis of merit, not past service to a party or political affiliate. Re-nomination should be an option too, no problem with that. Bu, it mustn't be for life and the title goes when you stop sitting. Oh, and it should be a house without party groups.


There wouldn't have been a 'Brexit campaign' but for Nigel.


Leaving the EU is, for me, of fundamental importance to the regaining and the retaining of our democracy and our sovereignty, it's that simple. I think that without these things we cease, either in large steps or by small increments, to be free - that's why it is of supreme important to me.

Trading certainly is easier with EU states when one is a member state, but I don't subscribe to the 'it will be awful forever' propaganda; it just doesn't make sense when examined calmly. Trade always finds a way, Canada has a free-trade deal, Japan etc.. So will we, if it takes one year or ten years I'm not worried, because the key matters of principle will have been established and saved.

I don't often get nervous about things, elections included; but there is so much at stake this time that I'll admit to some nerves... I've a Labour friend in London who is a borough councillor and was intending to stand for Parliament, but chose not to while JC is his leader. He wouldn't vote Tory, but he can't bring himself to vote for Labour this time, despite a lifetime of membership.

He fears what even a single term of JC would do to the country and, he'll admit in private, to his party.
I trust this fellow's opinion as much as any other I know of and far more than most - he thinks that if JC gets a working majority he will rip up his manifesto on day one...

(He has also heard some rumours that I'll start another thread about.)

Where is your other thread about the rumours?

 

[Danllan]

Where is your other thread about the rumours?

Labour NI vote?

Disclaimer, for what that's worth: this is just a rumour that has come to light from inside Labour in London. That written, I was chatting with a chum from London yesterday. He is a 'proper' Labour man, not loony left or Blairite. He is a borough councillor and would probably be standing in the...

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