Bucklesham plough day

12 bore

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Ploughed over at bucklesham at weekend had a great day and was pleased with my work in general. Land very hard in places and previous crop of peas was a pain to bury in places. I was pleased with opening split although not sure if too deep? Hoping for some advice. Also furrow wall was a bit raggedy is this purely down to disc counter adjustment or if hard can this be a problem too.
 

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MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
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Cirencester
The rolling landslide will do that in soft sandy soil, that is why I dont run with one, instead have lengthened the original fergie one.
Looks like a Fergie split, not done one in a while, we tend (down here) to get more points if we do normal split, ie. using the front furrow on the return with the rear also.
Hard to comment re the work as cant exactly see what is going on with the furrows but the picture with the tractor looks like a narrow front but like I said cant really comment.
 

12 bore

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The rolling landslide will do that in soft sandy soil, that is why I dont run with one, instead have lengthened the original fergie one.
Looks like a Fergie split, not done one in a while, we tend (down here) to get more points if we do normal split, ie. using the front furrow on the return with the rear also.
Hard to comment re the work as cant exactly see what is going on with the furrows but the picture with the tractor looks like a narrow front but like I said cant really comment.
The plot I had was quite sandy other places in the same field hard as iron so I was lucky. I may have a look at lengthening the rear landslide then see if that improves things. The split is definately Fergie split as I pretty much copied it out of ferguson ploughing manual I will perhaps look at something different next time. The front furrow is narrower I couldn't get the width to widen any thpughts
 

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
I removed the rolling landslide completely. Re front furrow width, you need to twist the cross shaft forwards to widen the front furrow, do you have a cross shaft adjuster handle on the plough? No bother if not, just undo the nuts and rotate, nip up and try again, keep doing that until you get it right (then mark it!!!!) This will give you a base setting to go from at your next match, you may then need to tweak one way or another.
Fergie book settings are not gospel, and no 2 Fergie ploughs will use the same settings, I am afraid it will be a case of trial and error. You can also move the plough over on the cross shaft (assuming you still have the welded "notch" on the shaft, my GF's plough works best when the U bolt is 1" over from the cross shaft notch.)
I assume you are on 56" wheel centres looking at your picture, I run mine on 48" not that it makes a lot of difference
 

12 bore

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I removed the rolling landslide completely. Re front furrow width, you need to twist the cross shaft forwards to widen the front furrow, do you have a cross shaft adjuster handle on the plough? No bother if not, just undo the nuts and rotate, nip up and try again, keep doing that until you get it right (then mark it!!!!) This will give you a base setting to go from at your next match, you may then need to tweak one way or another.
Fergie book settings are not gospel, and no 2 Fergie ploughs will use the same settings, I am afraid it will be a case of trial and error. You can also move the plough over on the cross shaft (assuming you still have the welded "notch" on the shaft, my GF's plough works best when the U bolt is 1" over from the cross shaft notch.)
I assume you are on 56" wheel centres looking at your picture, I run mine on 48" not that it makes a lot of difference
It does still have welded notch I will have a measure and see what I'm running at. I freed everything off this year as plough been a project so everything previously set has been altered! It is on 56" centres I haven't altered anything really on tractor yet but I will as this will be my ploughing tractor so I want to get everything set to give me as good a chance as possible. Hopefully get a bit of practice before next time and I can tweak the cross shaft haven't got a width adjuster but that will be next purchase.
 

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
I ran without one for my first year but have put one on now, just makes things a little easier. Some run at 56" centres and some at 48" whatever suits you really. Cross shaft will be near vertical or either way fore or aft a smidge. You will get it sorted out but beware it does become addictive!!! Especially if youre even slightly a bit OCD about stuff!!! But it's bloody good fun and most people you meet match ploughing are really friendly pleasant people and are all too willing to offer you advice, especially when starting out.
 

wuddy

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Location
Scottish Borders
I removed the rolling landslide completely. Re front furrow width, you need to twist the cross shaft forwards to widen the front furrow, do you have a cross shaft adjuster handle on the plough? No bother if not, just undo the nuts and rotate, nip up and try again, keep doing that until you get it right (then mark it!!!!) This will give you a base setting to go from at your next match, you may then need to tweak one way or another.
Fergie book settings are not gospel, and no 2 Fergie ploughs will use the same settings, I am afraid it will be a case of trial and error. You can also move the plough over on the cross shaft (assuming you still have the welded "notch" on the shaft, my GF's plough works best when the U bolt is 1" over from the cross shaft notch.)
I assume you are on 56" wheel centres looking at your picture, I run mine on 48" not that it makes a lot of difference
Wheel settings make a lot of difference 48”-56” alters your front furr by 4”! Not studied picture but maybe a wide front furr rather than narrow!
 

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Yes i agree but I prefer 48" where as my GF prefer's 56" there is no perfect width, some run the furrow wheel at the 48" setting and the on land wheel at 56" setting, horses for courses and whatever you get on best with. I know Roy Stokes has set Sharon's plough up with the tractor at 56" with the plough along the shaft angled to narrow. I run mine on 48" and have the plough the opposite way to Roy on the shaft and run it ever so slightly towards wide. I couldnt get it to produce the work to the same standard set up as Roy had set Sharon's plough. Every plough is different, we have between us 5 Fergie ploughs and none of them run at the same settings.
 

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