Building a new farmhouse from the farm workshop. An undertaking I wont do again.

stroller

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Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
Mmmmm, that is the puzzle.

I have had similar in the past with a bad sections of 15mm. This piece was on a rising main and had a brass stop tap attached. Perhaps electrolytic action? I had to cut quite some distance away before the cutter stopped squaring the tube.
Ha! I replaced the section with Speed-fit in case there was an electrical circuit and I thought a section of plastic would break it.
SS
it looks pitted on the inside, i seem to remember reading/hearing somewhere that some copper pipe is badly made and goes like that.
 

L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
Give it a go, treat yourself to a decent rothenberger gas torch, I managed to do it and was always daunted by soldering, 3 years on and the tennants haven't complained about leaking pipes............yet!
Coming to that conclusion, will be done by the time I can get someone in at this rate!
 

L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
I’m so invested in to lurking watching this build go on. I’m so envious of your ability to do it and, if nothing else, the pure determination. With nothing constructive to add to this as I wouldn’t know where to start, I’ll continue to lurk. Kudos to you 😎
Thank you! It's not been that difficult. The downside of not having an architect is there's nobody to blame but yourself, the upside is that you really sit down and think how to avoid problems for the next steps, but don't tend to be held up waiting for yet more revised drawings. To commit yourself in advance to do the whole lot would be daunting, but doing it modularly you tend to think sod it, I'll just crack on, get the tools and do it... lots of determination and a simple approach seems to be working!
 

Wesley

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Copper is fine ‘till it isn’t😡
Tenant reported a ssssssss-ing noise under the floor.
SS
Our water will eat copper out for fun. Takes a few years but you can poke your fingers through the stuff. I requested anything not accessible was plastic…but how many plumbers listen. Got a few dodgy copper joints after a while too. At least with push fit its easy to fix when there’s no room. It just doesn’t look as nice.
 

PI Stsker

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
Thank you! It's not been that difficult. The downside of not having an architect is there's nobody to blame but yourself, the upside is that you really sit down and think how to avoid problems for the next steps, but don't tend to be held up waiting for yet more revised drawings. To commit yourself in advance to do the whole lot would be daunting, but doing it modularly you tend to think sod it, I'll just crack on, get the tools and do it... lots of determination and a simple approach seems to be working!
Fair bloody play. I would not have the slightest interest in taking something so daunting on. My measurements are more like 12 inches and a little bit so the whole lot would be on the pee.

my wife is an architect and keeps sketching out her dream house saying oh next year do you think…. I’d love to do it but I’d have to get builders to do it all which then for the type of thing she sketches out would blow the budget 5 fold. Once your finished come this way and build me one 😝🤣
 

L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
Fair bloody play. I would not have the slightest interest in taking something so daunting on. My measurements are more like 12 inches and a little bit so the whole lot would be on the pee.

my wife is an architect and keeps sketching out her dream house saying oh next year do you think…. I’d love to do it but I’d have to get builders to do it all which then for the type of thing she sketches out would blow the budget 5 fold. Once your finished come this way and build me one 😝🤣
Haha! I think I'll be glad to sit by the fire, or if I get bored rebuild the racing car maybe! I'd quite like to get back to enjoying farming tbh and put some attention to dilapidations which I turn a blind eye to currently... put all the coins into a piggy bank and I might fancy doing it again in 2028... but I don't doubt you can do it yourself if you put your mind to it.... post up the good lady's plans... wish my missus was an architect... most of my plans are still pencil on paper because they are easily changed with a good old rubber... the place isn't perfect, it's quirky and characterful. When it's done you are all welcome to come and have a nosey and have your own take on it... might even offer a beverage and supper.
 

fermerboy

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Location
Banffshire
What caused that?
Our water here eats away at copper pipe, ours looks similar, new pipes are thinner, and last even less time.

A hot tank will do about 8yrs if your are lucky, but the immersion will be dead before that, we fit stainless steel ones now, so far so good, the first has been in about 10yrs and seems sound.
I'll only do copper on the central heating pipes, anything freshwater will be plastic as much as possible, I prefer nicely bent and soldered copper to look at though.

I've spent the last 20yrs repairing pipes in the fields where the water has eaten away the copper insert on the old style brass fittings used to join black Alkathene, and then its just a matter of time till the joint lets go.
 

Tractortech

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Location
Cumbria
Know the feeling, plumbers are just so illusive in this area! What are your views on push fit plastic vs copper? Tempted to first fix myself... plumbing to me so far has been mostly cattle troughs and not a league I've ventured into very far with dual circuit systems. Copper soldering I've not done more than the odd joint... but this place is a tinder box so push fit has its appeal
I had my central heating installed with copper as I thought copper was best. In some locations it wasn't possible to get in to fit copper so push fit and dual layer plastic was used. Some years on now, the copper always has made creaking noises, the plastic doesn't. There's plastic from the location of the old boiler (new one went upstairs into a loft space), to the manifold under the floor. That must be over 30 years old now. As for the rodent issue,,,,, I've had them in the ceiling and garage, probably under the floor too. They've never touched the heating or electric,,,,,,,, so far 🤔
I do like to do some copper work though. I bought a Rothenberger blow lamp some years ago, it's a fantastic thing.. You'll need a pipe bender too, and a cutter,,,,,,, it goes on..
 
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Suffolk
I had my central heating installed with copper as I thought copper was best. In some locations it wasn't possible to get in to fit copper so push fit and dual layer plastic was used. Some years on now, the copper always has made creaking noises, the plastic doesn't. There's plastic from the location of the old boiler (new one went upstairs into a loft space), to the manifold under the floor. That must be over 30 years old now. As for the rodent issue,,,,, I've had them in the ceiling and garage, probably under the floor too. They've never touched the heating or electric,,,,,,,, so far 🤔
I do like to do some copper work though. I bought a Rothenberger blow lamp some years ago, it's a fantastic thing.. You'll need a pipe bender too, and a cutter,,,,,,, it goes on..
I enjoy the process of first fix, be it plumbing or electrics.
Just on the main part of the electrics right now…….where shall I put this, this & this😊 and will what I fitted two years ago still be ok and match up with my ideas right now!
I have completed the ground array which went reasonably well but not without problems. I met good folk doing this and have been told of others.
I am fitting an ‘Omnie’ heating plan and once the wires are strung will be on that.
All those things in piles…. Wtf do they go🤣 I’m sure I will find out soon enough.
SS
 
Location
Suffolk
Rodent problem!
SS
 

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I had my central heating installed with copper as I thought copper was best. In some locations it wasn't possible to get in to fit copper so push fit and dual layer plastic was used. Some years on now, the copper always has made creaking noises, the plastic doesn't. There's plastic from the location of the old boiler (new one went upstairs into a loft space), to the manifold under the floor. That must be over 30 years old now. As for the rodent issue,,,,, I've had them in the ceiling and garage, probably under the floor too. They've never touched the heating or electric,,,,,,,, so far 🤔
I do like to do some copper work though. I bought a Rothenberger blow lamp some years ago, it's a fantastic thing.. You'll need a pipe bender too, and a cutter,,,,,,, it goes on..
Glis were the very worse creatures. Particularly if they could get into your header tanks.
Why does the tap water smell funny?
Coz there are thirty drowned glis floating in it🤮
SS
 

brigadoon

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Location
Galloway
Haha! I think I'll be glad to sit by the fire, or if I get bored rebuild the racing car maybe! I'd quite like to get back to enjoying farming tbh and put some attention to dilapidations which I turn a blind eye to currently... put all the coins into a piggy bank and I might fancy doing it again in 2028... but I don't doubt you can do it yourself if you put your mind to it.... post up the good lady's plans... wish my missus was an architect... most of my plans are still pencil on paper because they are easily changed with a good old rubber... the place isn't perfect, it's quirky and characterful. When it's done you are all welcome to come and have a nosey and have your own take on it... might even offer a beverage and supper.
Somehow I cannot see the sitting by the fire lasting all that long.

A seriously brave project and looks like the execution fully matches the decision to go ahead yourself. Total respect!

That really should have been on Grand Designs or the Farming Life - it would have made a very pleasant change from airy fairy projects coming in years late and miles over budget.

Now - I have an old double dutch barn that I would like to revamp.....................
 

L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
Somehow I cannot see the sitting by the fire lasting all that long.

A seriously brave project and looks like the execution fully matches the decision to go ahead yourself. Total respect!

That really should have been on Grand Designs or the Farming Life - it would have made a very pleasant change from airy fairy projects coming in years late and miles over budget.

Now - I have an old double dutch barn that I would like to revamp.....................
I'd not want that plonker Mcleod here! It might get written up in Build It magazine this year coming.. I've been a bit loathe to publicise it beyond TFF, not sure why, but don't really want the world to see it! Started posting it on the workshop project thread for what it was... when I was fabricating in the workshop! Its not really a workshop project any more but everyone here has been either supportive or helpful, so I thought I'd carry it on with updates.

The family trip to Ireland to do that huge push fell absolutely flat on its arse for a bombshell on family health, never even had a guiness, just a 36 hour journey. So I'm not as far on with this post as previously hoped. The staircase to nowhere is still in the barn, we still have a bedroom thank goodness. Living room nearly finished for 2nd fix (plan b, it will be a temporary bedroom).
-4c this morning, no pipe lagging, no upstairs heat. Ive been a bit idle on sealing air out in favour of having lots of places we can pass materials up through the soffit... not today, that was spent getting rid of wind chill, boarding up the really handy dormer gaps and lagging pipes... oh and stoking the bedroom fire with offcuts....
 

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L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
One thing that has been extraordinary with this place in the past few weeks is the solace the bird life have sought. Barn owl had found a roost, and shall have its home in the verandah, Robin is a daily visitor, a blue tit today, wasn't keen, glad to get let out... but the jenny wren... just loves it, knows its way in or out... quite flattered really and will home the lot despite the bird sh!t and pellets everywhere!
 

L P

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Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
Whilst on the thread, the whole Ireland thing didn't work to plan, was on the way home after a 3 hour holiday due to family health... so, no staircase yet, but the bedroom and sitting room are near completion, first fix electrics and plumbing done of a fashion. Planning to move into sitting room for Christmas, not finished it but it's a habitable room... nearly. Glutton for punishment I've been I the workshop making window sills from rough sawn oak, will be "camping" in the new room for Christmas which is pretty exciting
 

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