Bully agents

My estate have a very pushy agent, a very intimidating person. I'm on an aha tenancy and have another generation on the tenancy. I got an agent working for me that is very good, my question is do I have to deal with the estate agent on visit and walk about or can I not be there and leave it for my agent to deal with it and not be there.
 

mixed breed

Member
Mixed Farmer
I loath paying someone to say what I could be saying myself, but the problem with dealing with it yourself is you will take everything he says personally.

Let the agent handle things, in my experience they only start to listen to your side when you have representation..
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Just bear in mind that the owner's agent is probably pushy because the owner is! I once accompanied an owner and his agent on a walk around. The owner was all smiles, asking after the tenant's wife and children, then when out of ear shot, he turned to the agent and told him how badly he wanted the tenant off the place and not to give him an inch! Yes, leave it to your agent, that's what the owner is doing.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
If you have another generation then you are in a stronger position. I would definitely attend any walkabout and have your agent there too. That way you can immediately challenge any nonsense. Sounds as if softly, softly approach may not work. Have a few things up your sleeve which you may have done and use as a negotiating tool.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I agree with the above. Fight fire with fire - get your agent to talk to theirs. They speak the same language & have a good knowledge of tenancy legislation. The landlord's agent represents the owner's wishes so of course it will be in their favour, not yours.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Put the agents car up on top of the dung midden
Just bear in mind that the owner's agent is probably pushy because the owner is! I once accompanied an owner and his agent on a walk around. The owner was all smiles, asking after the tenant's wife and children, then when out of ear shot, he turned to the agent and told him how badly he wanted the tenant off the place and not to give him an inch! Yes, leave it to your agent, that's what the owner is doing.
Thats true, but agents have much to gain by evicting tenants, even when the owner isnt bothered
 

Manny

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
In the middle.
Are landlord has had to different agents on our case for the last year. One a proper ag agent doing a rent review and offering us a very generous 75% rent rise and went as far as appointing an arbortrater before pulling the rent review 2 days before rent day and sending notice to do the same for next year. The second, a developer, is looking at the old buildings on the farm that are falling down around us. They have had an asbestos and heath and safety report done on the building and told us we have to put right everything they have found wrong in a two week period or there going to come in and do the work and charge it too us. This has put quite a bit of extra stress on mother and father whilst also having an autumn where nothing is planted and the cows are in early. Bulling on two fronts and the landlord who has been a family friend for over 30 years will now not speak to, or answer letters or emails from us.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Are landlord has had to different agents on our case for the last year. One a proper ag agent doing a rent review and offering us a very generous 75% rent rise and went as far as appointing an arbortrater before pulling the rent review 2 days before rent day and sending notice to do the same for next year. The second, a developer, is looking at the old buildings on the farm that are falling down around us. They have had an asbestos and heath and safety report done on the building and told us we have to put right everything they have found wrong in a two week period or there going to come in and do the work and charge it too us. This has put quite a bit of extra stress on mother and father whilst also having an autumn where nothing is planted and the cows are in early. Bulling on two fronts and the landlord who has been a family friend for over 30 years will now not speak to, or answer letters or emails from us.
Are you in the tfa? If not, join. Today
What sort of lease? Who isresponsible for repairs?
Sounds Like its a renewal needed, not repair
 

Manny

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
In the middle.
Yes I'm a member of tfa and we have an agent as well. It's a aha tenancy and the landlord or his mother previous landlady have spent a grand total of £1000 on the property in repairs since 1977 whilst we have stop there old building falling down, and built 6 new modern steel framed sheds that they are now trying to claim as there's now but can't find a memorandum that is mentioned in a letter but was never signed and exchange. We're now looking at serving a section 11 on them to repair there fixed equipment ie. the buildings.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Yes I'm a member of tfa and we have an agent as well. It's a aha tenancy and the landlord or his mother previous landlady have spent a grand total of £1000 on the property in repairs since 1977 whilst we have stop there old building falling down, and built 6 new modern steel framed sheds that they are now trying to claim as there's now but can't find a memorandum that is mentioned in a letter but was never signed and exchange. We're now looking at serving a section 11 on them to repair there fixed equipment ie. the buildings.
If they are claiming the new buildings are theirs, ask them to provide the account for the building of them.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
As he didn't want to go to arbourtration he can serve notice for the following year as no new rent was agreed. Apparently.
we have been having 'problems' with l/lords agents, served notice of rent review, 1 may 2017,for 2018. all correct, had to explain various 'quirks' in rent payed -£615 a month - which they didn't know about, and wanted to ignore, paperwork sorted that out, anyway rent increase mutually agreed with agent, out of the blue, rejected, and huge increase wanted, agent was unavailable when I tried to contact him, left messages on his mobile, his office, no reply, until may 1 st 2018, when he rung me, and accused me of not paying the rent, and such like, all rubbish, but he shut-up when I pointed out that it had to be settled the day before !
Notice of review, for 1 may 2020, served, I am waiting for l/lords agents to contact me, I will enjoy telling them their review notice was invalid, clearly written in tenancy, is, 'l/lord cannot serve written notice of rent review more than once in 3 years', the important word is 'written', not agreed.
Long post, but it always pays to check what is written, not what someone thinks is written, could be a very cheap read. Also, in my case, it may be that, by serving written notice, they have 'started' another 3 year period !!! Next period, rents may well be less, or I will have bought the farm, hopefully.
 

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