Buying a tractor, what to expect?

[oil barron]

Are you confusing things?? The names you use for the NH tractors seem like American names to me and you are talking dollars! I get a bit peed off when folk come on here offering "advice" when they aren`t even living/farming in the UK yet seem to know it all.... NH tractors offered in the UK might be totally different....!

I have a foot both sides of the pond, although granted I am no where near full time farming in the UK. I converted the $ price I paid to £ in the first post. I’ll be sure to write my full life history before offering “advice” again.

 

[JeepJeep]

Folk saying it's the wrong make.
Folk saying it's the wrong colour.

By Folk not paying for it

 

[Moors Lad]

The OP did not invite a load of NH "experts" to totally confuse him with a lot of "I think" info which suddenly becomes the NH definitive bible. What I DO know is that the NH T4.75 and the NH T4.75S which ARE sold in the UK are quite different beasts and I would suggest any intending purchaser should contact a reputable NH dealer for RELIABLE information...

If I buy from say 70 miles away is delivery going to be extra and how much?

Delivery of a new one should be part of the quote BUT a very important consideration is how far the dealer is from you when and if things go wrong ( this can be very important once any warranty eventually expires!). A major consideration should be just how local and just how good local dealers are for the brands you are considering. ( Ask around the local farming community as to which dealers are good, as well as not being too expensive!!)

So what sort of warranty should I expect? Would it be 12 months parts and labour on new and a couple of months on used?

On new it may depend on brand, but it is possible to ask for it to be extended - you`ve got to ask , but have some idea what you`d like in an ideal world and what it`s worth to you for peace of mind. Check any extended warranty covers the potentially expensive bits!! 12 months must surely be the minimum that any self-respecting brand will offer.
With secondhand I think you`d have to negotiate what you wanted in the way of warranty ( either hours or a period of time) . If you don`t use it much it might be best to get something in writing - for example " parts and labour for 100 hours".

Should I trade in my old one against it or better to sell private? Should be £15k ish on my existing one.

Do research ( look at as many adverts as possible for the tractor you are parting with) so that you know what it`s worth then you know if any p/x quote is fair or whether you`d be better trying to sell privately... Expect the dealer to be a bit under market price as he`s got to make a bit of profit, BUT you won`t have the hassle of dealing with potentially smart arse tyre-kicker types. However if your old machine is very tidy and an in demand model you could have a go selling privately but just be very wary ( most folk are genuine BUT there are some dodgy ones) ....

If I buy used and the engine and gearbox explode after 3 months am I just stuffed as out of warranty?

Almost certainly !! Unless you`ve a good written warranty from a reputable dealer for 4months!!
Less chance of said explosion if you buy a new one and drive it carefully yourself. Occasionally used equipment can have been abused by careless or ignorant previous operators which could possibly contribute to an "explosion". That`s why you expect to pay more for brand new gear!!

 

[Moors Lad]

any intending purchaser should contact a reputable NH dealer for RELIABLE information...

However, in my experience some machinery salesmen don`t know as much about their products as they should do (especially the lower HP models, as they don`t sell so many of them). SO DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS YOU CAN YOURSELF once you`ve narrowed down your choices.

 

[alomy75]

However, in my experience some machinery salesmen don`t know as much about their products as they should do (especially the lower HP models, as they don`t sell so many of them). SO DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS YOU CAN YOURSELF once you`ve narrowed down your choices.

This. I’ve yet to have a transaction with a salesman who knows more technical detail about what I’m about to buy than I do. Latest thing I bought I got referred to the demonstrator (person) for my questions…

 

[Nearly]

Buy another of whatever tractor you already have.
No depreciation.
Less changing implements.

 

[Kidds]

Got one
Second hand, 600 hours, looks OK to me. Had it on demo from local dealer (about 2 miles away) and a couple of issues with air seat and air con that got sorted.
Manual shuttle that is biggest niggle but it's OK when using it. Been out with the flail around the house and in the wider orchard rows, handles it well. Discovered the gear lever for the pto does not stay engaged so it will need that sorting but for now a piece of bale string has done the trick.
Came with a loader but nothing on it, bucket is on loan from the salesman until my new one arrives, also bought a pallet tine headstock for it which is useful for my purposes.
So far so good, will keep you informed.

 

[CPF]

Well done, looks very smart

 

[Battlefield Machinery]

@Battlefield Machinery would be helpful and 100% trustworthy

Massive apologies! I missed this!
But Kubota std warranty is 2 years, 2,000 hrs.
As a sales company the uk add a 5 year package with various hour packages, then the customer dealer can kick that up by 1,000 hour intervals.
We don’t have any excess payments…I think that is the biggest thing to be wary of, some manufacturers , it is per repair, not per visit of a mechanic.
I also had experience of insurance based warranty….I think my opinion on that is, the whole industry is worked on not having to pay a % of bosoms, that’s not being derogatory to them, it’s just how they make their money.
Hope that helps

 

[steveR]

Massive apologies! I missed this!
But Kubota std warranty is 2 years, 2,000 hrs.
As a sales company the uk add a 5 year package with various hour packages, then the customer dealer can kick that up by 1,000 hour intervals.
We don’t have any excess payments…I think that is the biggest thing to be wary of, some manufacturers , it is per repair, not per visit of a mechanic.
I also had experience of insurance based warranty….I think my opinion on that is, the whole industry is worked on not having to pay a % of bosoms, that’s not being derogatory to them, it’s just how they make their money.
Hope that helps

Are you sure we are talking about the same "bosoms" here.... I have a different image in mind.....

 

[CPF]

Massive apologies! I missed this!
But Kubota std warranty is 2 years, 2,000 hrs.
As a sales company the uk add a 5 year package with various hour packages, then the customer dealer can kick that up by 1,000 hour intervals.
We don’t have any excess payments…I think that is the biggest thing to be wary of, some manufacturers , it is per repair, not per visit of a mechanic.
I also had experience of insurance based warranty….I think my opinion on that is, the whole industry is worked on not having to pay a % of bosoms, that’s not being derogatory to them, it’s just how they make their money.
Hope that helps

Yes but , why in australia you get a 36 month or 3000 hours warranty
But not in the uk ?

 

[steveR]

Yes but , why in australia you get a 36 month or 3000 hours warranty
But not in the uk ?

Same in US as I recall?

 

[Battlefield Machinery]

I think sgsin it’s a local decision by the says company, do Japan will supply with the 2 year 2,000 hr , but Kubota Canada will decide what suits they’re market best as will the uk , Aus, etc…I think it’s a good thing myself as decisions are best made to suit, and warranty can be costed in that country…as we won’t all have the same failures…if that makes sense?

 

[Battlefield Machinery]

So

Yes but , why in australia you get a 36 month or 3000 hours warranty
But not in the uk ?

currently all m7’s & M6’s will come with 5 year, 3,000 hours….(I personally can’t see that changing, and we as a desler sell most of our M7’s with more hours than that)

 

[Battlefield Machinery]

Are you sure we are talking about the same "bosoms" here.... I have a different image in mind.....

Sunday night! Must of had my mind on other things!

 

[steveR]

Sunday night! Must of had my mind on other things!

Lucky Man.......

 

[Battlefield Machinery]

Lucky Man.......

My mind