BYDV spray

[Wilbada]

Anyone doing an aphid spray? Agronomist thinks I should on the early stuff (drilled end of Sept), but I think only to cover his arse. I’m not convinced, especially with all this rain, wind and now cold we’re getting. Be hard enough to find a day to even spray it.

 

[Devil's advocate]

No

 

[Woody j]

Anyone doing an aphid spray? Agronomist thinks I should on the early stuff (drilled end of Sept), but I think only to cover his arse. I’m not convinced, especially with all this rain, wind and now cold we’re getting. Be hard enough to find a day to even spray it.

You must have drier ground than most of the rest of us

 

[copse]

Anyone doing an aphid spray? Agronomist thinks I should on the early stuff (drilled end of Sept), but I think only to cover his arse. I’m not convinced, especially with all this rain, wind and now cold we’re getting. Be hard enough to find a day to even spray it.

Hopefully get my barley done tomorrow.

 

[APJ]

Can’t be in this country if you can travel with a sprayer! Even if you could I wouldn’t bother.

 

[jessop123]

It's not cold. Even if it was, you would need -10 degrees probably to have any effect on aphids.

And yes I would spray in answer to the question.

 

[Green oak]

The amount of yellow barley around now you would think it’s all got bydv

 

[Zippy768]

Have chem to spray and a herbicide as didn't get a pre-em. Every intention of doing at least the barley.
Fortunately WB is on some of the better ground. Was thinking tomorrow to try and get some done, but likely a first frost tomorrow and barley already looks abit sad. So aphids may get a reprieve atm

 

[Wilbada]

Can’t be in this country if you can travel with a sprayer! Even if you could I wouldn’t bother.

I farm chalk, granted it has a strong advantage in seasons like this. But yes I am UK based

 

[Barleymow]

Haven't got the pre em on yet can hardly travel with a knapsack

 

[Brisel]

I've been finding aphids in early October sown cereals so will probably treat the first drilled wb which is about all that will travel. Barley is looking yellow from herbicide leaching down and wet feet so some manganese will be added on the sandy soils.

 

[DrWazzock]

Some might travel here but it will squeeze the soil together in the so far untouched tramlines and make a right mess, particularly if more rain follows. Don’t know what to do. Sand needs manganese. Might attempt those patches where I don’t need to go through clay. Even LGP tyres will make a mess even if they don’t sink in too much.

 

[ollie989898]

I'd go through what you can, aphicide and manganese +/- a bit foliar phosphate to taste. Crops likely need all the help they can get given the conditions. I used to hate this time of year, I'd sooner just drive by and not look.

 

[DrWazzock]

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I feel lazy for not rushing to get something on but I’d probably kick myself if I made a mess. Might attempt the drier sand next week with some half tanks of minerals.
What annoys me is all these hundreds of acres of over wintered stubbles hooching with diseased volunteers and aphids. They used to call it the green bridge and it was frowned upon. Now they are getting £200 an acre for harbouring this rubbish. What chance does that give producers to cut insecticide use? None, I’d say. As ever the trier is penalised. Those that don’t bother, win. It’s the New Tory way.

 

[Zippy768]

Eeek.
Tbh doesn't look that bad in a pic.
Anywhoo WB done (apart from 2 acres) Aphids and herby

 

[BRBX]

W barley yesterday wheat today just about fit to travel insecticide and Mn .
More to do but it's stressed from pre em washing through.
And rest has rotted!!

 

[MeavyHetal]

I was thinking the same thing as may just about travel in places but couldn't find an aphid so thought best left in shed. Forecast not looking great after today.

 

[thorpe]

Haven't got the pre em on yet can hardly travel with a knapsack

nick did the2nd stack on WB yesterday and this morning, he said it traveled well!

 

[yellow belly]

last year had very little bydv on september planted wheat
this year the weather has been very unfriendly to aphids either arriving or surviving
on saturday there was still ice on a bucket of water in the shade at 2.30
sunday was colder

not sprayed here for 30 years so not spraying now

in the work done in the last century the highest losses were in september emerged cereals that had 3 to 5 tillers by now

october emerged crops could be sprayed any time till march and if the aphids got killed in the meantime the spray gave no economic gain
with the sfi paying £45 a ha for no insecticide the yield responce needs to be significantly higher

if i farmed in a significantly warmer area i would re evaluate
probably drill later and look harder for when aphid arrive

 

[Grass And Grain]

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I feel lazy for not rushing to get something on but I’d probably kick myself if I made a mess. Might attempt the drier sand next week with some half tanks of minerals.
What annoys me is all these hundreds of acres of over wintered stubbles hooching with diseased volunteers and aphids. They used to call it the green bridge and it was frowned upon. Now they are getting £200 an acre for harbouring this rubbish. What chance does that give producers to cut insecticide use? None, I’d say. As ever the trier is penalised. Those that don’t bother, win. It’s the New Tory way.

Is this a result of the Farming Rules For Water?

Don't those rules say you've to leave a green cover except in certain circumstances. Regenerated stubbles being an appropriate cover.

Exceptions are things like after maize, but you're supposed to pull a drag through it to roughen the surface. Possibly another exception is overwinter ploughing.

I must say, when I read these rules, I did think about the green bridge.