Farm Hand 500
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Hello all - apologies in advance for the slightly long and mildly boring read that follows........
A neighbour of ours purchased a hilly field which is located beside a noisy main road from a local farmer around 13 years ago.
Predominately she has used the field for her own equestrian needs, and to supplement her income she has rented out livery to 3 or 4 other locals. Recently, during the summer months she blatantly abuses the 28 day camping rule with some very unsuccessful campfire camping. This is due to the field sitting on top of a dual carriageway which non-surprisingly gathers some poor online noise reviews. Because of this the camping only attracts all male hard drinking youngens whose campfire smoke upsets her own horses! The jovial noise from the party makers which often goes on into the early hours also irritates the hell out of the three farmhand cottages nearby!
Recently she sought planning permission for a 3 day festival in the 11 acre smallholding and along with stealing one of the locals husbands she is generally not a hot contestant for best person in the village award
Now where do I fit into this story - well, we own and farm some land that borders this women to the rear of her field. We are the new kids on the block and fortunately do not suffer the noise pollution from her site as we live far enough away not to hear, but it would be fair to say that we do not get on with her.
Recently this neighbour was granted a certificate of lawfulness for her stable block (four years usage) and a caravan (10 years usage as it was not resided in)
The caravan sits less than a metre from our boundary, and as we are downhill the caravans above ground black and grey water drainage pipes flow directly down into our field causing surface erosion. When you partner this with all the rubbish and the wine bottles that she launches out of the caravan window into our field it is just really really nasty.
Ignoring the environmental impacts of her drainage which we will address independently with the EA if we have no other recourse, the current mobile unit was sited just 8 years ago to replace a small 2 birth road towable caravan that had supposedly caught on fire (this happened a few years before we moved in).
This small caravan had been there for a couple of years or so and that is how she is making claim for the ten years.
The other surrounding neighbours have hounded her for ever for her retrospective planning techniques and so there is a sizeable paper trail which you can access from the councils website and according to this the original caravan was tiny.
My question is can a certificate of lawfulness be invalidated due to the fact that there was a three month gap between the first caravan burning and the second caravan being sited.
The differential in size between the two caravans cannot be compared like for like - one is the size of a baked bean tin and the second is a two bedroomed house static caravan!
Additionally in one of her historical response letters she claims that the original caravan was sited as a tea room and to facilitate the birth of some new foals (the premise for the certificate of lawfulness) however since the certificate of lawfulness has been in place the newly sized larger premises has allowed the neighbour to have people living in the new caravan from which she now enjoys the additional rental income from.
Well that’s about it, I would really appreciate some advice with the options available to us. We are keen to know if we have grounds to revoke the certificate of lawfulness as otherwise before long a house will appear there.
I almost forgot the council had served an enforcement notice on her to remove the caravan but did follow through the enforcement and the 10 years passed therefore granting her this certificate by default.
Thank you in advance for your help J
A neighbour of ours purchased a hilly field which is located beside a noisy main road from a local farmer around 13 years ago.
Predominately she has used the field for her own equestrian needs, and to supplement her income she has rented out livery to 3 or 4 other locals. Recently, during the summer months she blatantly abuses the 28 day camping rule with some very unsuccessful campfire camping. This is due to the field sitting on top of a dual carriageway which non-surprisingly gathers some poor online noise reviews. Because of this the camping only attracts all male hard drinking youngens whose campfire smoke upsets her own horses! The jovial noise from the party makers which often goes on into the early hours also irritates the hell out of the three farmhand cottages nearby!
Recently she sought planning permission for a 3 day festival in the 11 acre smallholding and along with stealing one of the locals husbands she is generally not a hot contestant for best person in the village award
Now where do I fit into this story - well, we own and farm some land that borders this women to the rear of her field. We are the new kids on the block and fortunately do not suffer the noise pollution from her site as we live far enough away not to hear, but it would be fair to say that we do not get on with her.
Recently this neighbour was granted a certificate of lawfulness for her stable block (four years usage) and a caravan (10 years usage as it was not resided in)
The caravan sits less than a metre from our boundary, and as we are downhill the caravans above ground black and grey water drainage pipes flow directly down into our field causing surface erosion. When you partner this with all the rubbish and the wine bottles that she launches out of the caravan window into our field it is just really really nasty.
Ignoring the environmental impacts of her drainage which we will address independently with the EA if we have no other recourse, the current mobile unit was sited just 8 years ago to replace a small 2 birth road towable caravan that had supposedly caught on fire (this happened a few years before we moved in).
This small caravan had been there for a couple of years or so and that is how she is making claim for the ten years.
The other surrounding neighbours have hounded her for ever for her retrospective planning techniques and so there is a sizeable paper trail which you can access from the councils website and according to this the original caravan was tiny.
My question is can a certificate of lawfulness be invalidated due to the fact that there was a three month gap between the first caravan burning and the second caravan being sited.
The differential in size between the two caravans cannot be compared like for like - one is the size of a baked bean tin and the second is a two bedroomed house static caravan!
Additionally in one of her historical response letters she claims that the original caravan was sited as a tea room and to facilitate the birth of some new foals (the premise for the certificate of lawfulness) however since the certificate of lawfulness has been in place the newly sized larger premises has allowed the neighbour to have people living in the new caravan from which she now enjoys the additional rental income from.
Well that’s about it, I would really appreciate some advice with the options available to us. We are keen to know if we have grounds to revoke the certificate of lawfulness as otherwise before long a house will appear there.
I almost forgot the council had served an enforcement notice on her to remove the caravan but did follow through the enforcement and the 10 years passed therefore granting her this certificate by default.
Thank you in advance for your help J