Case 4200 vs 5100 series

[Exfarmer]

Got a 5130 Pro here since new I believe it was the last Case 51 series tractor sold by Bowens at Cairneyhill a 97 R plate has 12000 + hours a JD front linkage thumb powershift on the gear lever used to drill 4-500 acre with a combination drill and has pulled a 5 furrow plough on occasions ......it’s hydraulics are getting tired now probably a new pump would help but it’s still a great tractor to drive miles ahead of the 4230 we had ........ it only lasted 5 years and was chopped in for a Doncaster built Mc115 , another decent tractor

A 5130 and a 4230 are chalk and cheese, one was a lightweight tractor which came from a generation of tractors which owed there roots to the Fergie 20 designed as a universal run around
The other was a serious heavy weight tractor designed for heavy draft work.
Both had their place on farms

 

[essexpete]

They were real easy to remap too

A 5130 and a 4230 are chalk and cheese, one was a lightweight tractor which came from a generation of tractors which owed there roots to the Fergie 20 designed as a universal run around
The other was a serious heavy weight tractor designed for heavy draft work.
Both had their place on farms

Other than top link draught control, no links to Fergie. I do agree that the 2 case lines were not in any way comparable. A bit like comparing the 51 series with the Magnum.

 

[davidroberts30]

Other than top link draught control, no links to Fergie. I do agree that the 2 case lines were not in any way comparable. A bit like comparing the 51 series with the Magnum.

Maxxums are lower link pin draught sensing

 

[Wesley]

Maxxums are lower link pin draught sensing

42’ series was top link though. Which is what I assume he was referring to.

 

[davidroberts30]

42’ series was top link though. Which is what I assume he was referring to.

Yes same axles basically as a 674 etc

 

[Wesley]

Yes same axles basically as a 674 etc

Wasn’t far off just chucking new body panels & cab on each time & calling it a new range for a while

 

[davidroberts30]

Wasn’t far off just chucking new body panels & cab on each time & calling it a new range for a while

Axle is still going in cx range now

 

[essexpete]

Maxxums are lower link pin draught sensing

I was referring to the small 42 range.

 

[essexpete]

Wasn’t far off just chucking new body panels & cab on each time & calling it a new range for a while

Similar to the other manufacturers.

 

[Andy Nash]

42 series were cheap tractors designed to drag a few more years out of a an old design.
My 4230 when I bought it new with a decent 30cwt quicke loader, shear grab, bale squeezer and bucket was still cheaper than a bare 6200 Deere.
Of course the Deere was a much better tractor than the case, but when you’re starting out you wonder just how good a tractor you need to plonk a few grabs of silage in ring feeders.
The thing with the old Doncaster cases and nashers is that they are cheapish to buy andyou can get bits for them and fix them without having to take cabs off etc.
I have a 5150 pro too, which would be hard work in a tight yard with a loader. Much nicer to drive, but there are lots of obsolete parts on 51/series nowadays.

 

[J 1177]

42 series were cheap tractors designed to drag a few more years out of a an old design.
My 4230 when I bought it new with a decent 30cwt quicke loader, shear grab, bale squeezer and bucket was still cheaper than a bare 6200 Deere.
Of course the Deere was a much better tractor than the case, but when you’re starting out you wonder just how good a tractor you need to plonk a few grabs of silage in ring feeders.
The thing with the old Doncaster cases and nashers is that they are cheapish to buy andyou can get bits for them and fix them without having to take cabs off etc.
I have a 5150 pro too, which would be hard work in a tight yard with a loader. Much nicer to drive, but there are lots of obsolete parts on 51/series nowadays.

What parts are obsolete, i seem to be able to get bits fine for mine?

 

[Andy Nash]

What parts are obsolete, i seem to be able to get bits fine for mine?

The compensator for one, or maybe you know a source?
To be honest, it was the mechanic who told me that and good news if he’s wrong.

 

[J 1177]

The compensator for one, or maybe you know a source?
To be honest, it was the mechanic who told me that and good news if he’s wrong.

Never had that go so iv been proved wrong there, do rexroth not do one?

 

[sc4545]

What parts are obsolete, i seem to be able to get bits fine for mine?

Have you tried to get rear tail lights for a 51?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Theres somethin on the hydralics that cant be got iv been told but mabe that is the compensator already mentioned

 

[Richard Devon]

What parts are obsolete, i seem to be able to get bits fine for mine?

Injector pipes for a 5130

 

[davidroberts30]

Injector pipes for a 5130

Fuel Injector Supply Tube Pipes VE Pump Rotary Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA DAF 45 55 | eBay

6B, 6BT, 6BTA. 6BTA 24 Valve. Exhaust Manifold Turbo Gasket Set for Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA DAF 45 55 Case IH. Oil Sump Pan Gasket for Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA 6BTAA for DAF 45 55. Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cummins 6B 6BT 6BTA 6BTAA for JCB DAF LF 45 55.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[spark plug]

Injector pipes for a 5130

Last time I needed an injector pipe the local diesel place made me one while I waited for £20.

 

[Richard Devon]

Fuel Injector Supply Tube Pipes VE Pump Rotary Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA DAF 45 55 | eBay

6B, 6BT, 6BTA. 6BTA 24 Valve. Exhaust Manifold Turbo Gasket Set for Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA DAF 45 55 Case IH. Oil Sump Pan Gasket for Cummins 5.9 6B 6BT 6BTA 6BTAA for DAF 45 55. Exhaust Manifold Bolts Cummins 6B 6BT 6BTA 6BTAA for JCB DAF LF 45 55.

www.ebay.co.uk

yes, except that the 5130 has a Lucas rotary pump not a Bosch VE as listed on ebay.....the point I was trying to make is that the manufacturer is no longer supporting the product.

 

[Richard Devon]

Last time I needed an injector pipe the local diesel place made me one while I waited for £20.

see my point above above the manufacturer not supporting the product