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[nickf]

Heard back from alltrails and they get their information from openstreetmaps. It was then quite easy to delete the track from the map. Shall have to keep checking though in case some knob puts it back on.
Shall also be doing a section 31 this week.

Openstreetmaps is a real pain.

I found out that two of my farm tracks had been recorded on their site as bridleways, I deleted them straight away on the website.

The worrying thing about their model is that anyone can mark up the online map, adding random footpaths, bridleways and even add comments, with seemingly no oversight or checking. Third party users then link to openstreetmaps and their users assume that what they see on their device is gospel.

I recommend looking at their website every few months and check your farms for spurious right of way additions.

 

[Wombat]

Openstreetmaps is a real pain.

I found out that two of my farm tracks had been recorded on their site as bridleways, I deleted them straight away on the website.

The worrying thing about their model is that anyone can mark up the online map, adding random footpaths, bridleways and even add comments, with seemingly no oversight or checking. Third party users then link to openstreetmaps and their users assume that what they see on their device is gospel.

I recommend looking at their website every few months and check your farms for spurious right of way additions.

one of our footpaths is now a bridle way how do you edit it?

edit found it, its marked as a footpath but as its on a track the dotted line is wrong

 

[SilliamWhale]

I'm not anti walkers/footpaths etc

But I do feel that re routing should be possible when they go through farm yards and certainly if they want to reinstate unsued paths then this should be done in a collaborative way to find routes that work for walkers and landowners alike

You can probably just put a sign by the footpath and put a voluntary reroute in and 95% of walkers would take it if it is well marked and accessible.

 

[Salopian_Will]

You can probably just put a sign by the footpath and put a voluntary reroute in and 95% of walkers would take it if it is well marked and accessible.

You can - and there is no way of any claiming it by right as it is clearly permissive if there is a sign saying so. It is a very simple solution that most do not immediately think of.

 

[Tony Rentokil]

I tried this after my landlord farmer opened up an old foot path next to my partridge pen,,,after having polite word with some lurcher type guys,,,2 weeks later all my bird,had gone never to be seen again,,

 

[farmerm]

Komoot an app I use for mountain biking route planning is another one that has incorrect routes on it... I try to use it in conjunction with official OS maps but have been caught out a few times. Sometimes even with an OS maps it is not always clear when a road or track is a private. To add confusion there are many a drive that are signed private but are only private for motor vehicles and have a rights of way past the private sign that is not sign posted. If routes are well marked there can be no argument but I often find myself on routes when route markers just disappear and one ends up accidentally trespassing well off the route. If you want to minimise tresspass keep rights of way well marked and most people will at least try to stick to them.

 

[bill and bens dad]

had a look on Alltrails no extra footpaths on our land, but on Don't lose your way some come up ! what can we do to stop them be used reopened? section 31 looks only to stop new paths ?right or wrong? any ideas please

 

[Goweresque]

Openstreetmaps is a real pain.

I found out that two of my farm tracks had been recorded on their site as bridleways, I deleted them straight away on the website.

The worrying thing about their model is that anyone can mark up the online map, adding random footpaths, bridleways and even add comments, with seemingly no oversight or checking. Third party users then link to openstreetmaps and their users assume that what they see on their device is gospel.

I recommend looking at their website every few months and check your farms for spurious right of way additions.

How do you delete trails on the openstreetmaps site? There's several on my place that are either in the wrong place or no footpath at all.

 

[nickf]

How do you delete trails on the openstreetmaps site? There's several on my place that are either in the wrong place or no footpath at all.

I had to use a PC.
Register and sign in on top right of screen.
Then once you have an account, top left is the “edit” icon. You can then zoom in, click on a feature and see all the details of it on the left hand pane and then change the feature type or delete it. Once you have made a change to a feature, the “save“ icon is in the top right of the map and then you have to leave a comment as to why the change was made then click upload back on the left.
Took me a while of fiddling to get it sorted.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Komoot an app I use for mountain biking route planning is another one that has incorrect routes on it... I try to use it in conjunction with official OS maps but have been caught out a few times. Sometimes even with an OS maps it is not always clear when a road or track is a private. To add confusion there are many a drive that are signed private but are only private for motor vehicles and have a rights of way past the private sign that is not sign posted. If routes are well marked there can be no argument but I often find myself on routes when route markers just disappear and one ends up accidentally trespassing well off the route. If you want to minimise tresspass keep rights of way well marked and most people will at least try to stick to them.

Indeed ...route marking avoids confusion and accidental trespassing
When using my MTB, trails that are well marked are easiest to use and similarly when walking too

 

[Nearly]

This will take a bit of editing.
Previous owner got it rationalised in 80's but no records.

 

[Goweresque]

I had to use a PC.
Register and sign in on top right of screen.
Then once you have an account, top left is the “edit” icon. You can then zoom in, click on a feature and see all the details of it on the left hand pane and then change the feature type or delete it. Once you have made a change to a feature, the “save“ icon is in the top right of the map and then you have to leave a comment as to why the change was made then click upload back on the left.
Took me a while of fiddling to get it sorted.

Thanks, I did wonder if you had to register to do that. Another job for a cold evening by the fire!

 

[Andy26]

Thanks, I did wonder if you had to register to do that. Another job for a cold evening by the fire!

It takes several days for the changes to appear, in the edit view the changes happen in real time, but take a few days and you will find different zoom levels apply the changes at different time.

All the third party apps will update their OSM data periodically, so may take some time for the corrections to appear in apps like All trails etc.

 

[matthew]

I had to use a PC.
Register and sign in on top right of screen.
Then once you have an account, top left is the “edit” icon. You can then zoom in, click on a feature and see all the details of it on the left hand pane and then change the feature type or delete it. Once you have made a change to a feature, the “save“ icon is in the top right of the map and then you have to leave a comment as to why the change was made then click upload back on the left.
Took me a while of fiddling to get it sorted.

Grateful thanks for the heads up on this one.

As said, you have to register on the damned thing (Open Street Map) then as @nickf says, edit it out. With a (polite) reason. I did two on our patch this morning and they are now - gone.

One was a half mile track for tractors only - going nowhere near a FP, and the other was an entrance to our cattle yards which then appeared to turn to a single track which we use to avoid the cattle yards and get to the buildings at the back.

IMO it's a bloody cheek to have to watch sites like this, for what is in effect trespass with intent to create rights of way.

 

[yellow belly]

Edited a few feature off the farm

 

[Pauly]

It's a right pfaff to edit with an ipad as you have to zoom in to edit and then if it's a long track it says not enough track visible to edit.

 

[Goweresque]

Just edited all the footpaths on my place, all in order now. Will just have to keep an eye on them now.

For anyone wanting to do the same its pretty easy once you realise that the 'delete' function only appears when you right click on the item, doh!

 

[Goweresque]

It's a right pfaff to edit with an ipad as you have to zoom in to edit and then if it's a long track it says not enough track visible to edit.

The way to solve that problem is to use the 'Snip' tool, it cuts a line at that point, then you can select a smaller section of it and delete that.