Chicken muck carting and spreading

[davidroberts30]

when do want some , what crop are you thinking off putting on

doh only just seen your in pembs, thought you were in england
thought i was being clever

 

[Mad For Muck]

Can you spread it anywhere close to 24m?

Yes we can & do spread it accurately at 24m, however you couldn’t do it if it was straight out of a shed or not going through a horizontal beater disc spreader. We usually stockpile it up then it’s left a good few months then it’ll spread 24m - if it’s tipped in loads &/or not heaped or it’s not been long out of a shed then no chance. For spring spreading off tramlines we get it delivered & stockpiled around Oct/Nov/Dec so gives it a few months before going through the spreader which achieves the 24m

 

[ollie989898]

@ollie989898 Do you think or even better know that Broiler bedding could actually get through a "Posh" slurry tanker?
Some time ago one saw Broiler litter being spread on Countryfile on Adam's farm if I remember they were spreading at 24mtrs I say that's impossible, especially if its dry like ours.

Sorry, I don't think I have ever recommended putting broiler litter through a slurry tanker, I suspect my prose is all to fudge if I have given that impression. I have seen broiler litter spread from the tramlines with spinning disc manure spreaders, though obviously to throw it that far you need material that isn't too light.

I've seen people spread it on crops going up and down and also between the tramlines, too. It is a wicked product and contains so much N it is literally akin to applying bagged product.

 

[Daniel]

We get complaints when we spread layers muck and incorporate. If we just left it on top....

 

[Salopian_Will]

Yes we can & do spread it accurately at 24m, however you couldn’t do it if it was straight out of a shed or not going through a horizontal beater disc spreader. We usually stockpile it up then it’s left a good few months then it’ll spread 24m - if it’s tipped in loads &/or not heaped or it’s not been long out of a shed then no chance. For spring spreading off tramlines we get it delivered & stockpiled around Oct/Nov/Dec so gives it a few months before going through the spreader which achieves the 24m

What are you using to spread to 24m? We have an all singing and dancing Bunning and cannot get even well aged litter to spread properly to 24m. We spread at 12m to get an even spread.

 

[Mad For Muck]

What are you using to spread to 24m? We have an all singing and dancing Bunning and cannot get even well aged litter to spread properly to 24m. We spread at 12m to get an even spread.

Is your bunning a HBD? I’m running 3 all singing & dancing ones & as mentioned as long as it’s been sat there a few months we can get it to 24m

 

[Salopian_Will]

Is your bunning a HBD? I’m running 3 all singing & dancing ones & as mentioned as long as it’s been sat there a few months we can get it to 24m

Yup HBD. Well fair play to you,

 

[Mad For Muck]

Yup HBD. Well fair play to you,

What settings/holes it the lower part of the back hood on? And what pto speeds are you running it at?

 

[Renaultman]

So, fresh turkey muck.
Get it on now, 12 m disc spreader, hopefully just before/during rain.
Or leave until autumn an incorporate?
Will I lose more through volatization on a growing crop than I would through leeching throughout the winter.
Just looking at 2.5t/ha.
Hoping that will replace 0.1m3 of N32 liquid fert.
Analysis not in yet on muck so it's guess work rather than science.

 

[ollie989898]

So, fresh turkey muck.
Get it on now, 12 m disc spreader, hopefully just before/during rain.
Or leave until autumn an incorporate?
Will I lose more through volatization on a growing crop than I would through leeching throughout the winter.
Just looking at 2.5t/ha.
Hoping that will replace 0.1m3 of N32 liquid fert.
Analysis not in yet on muck so it's guess work rather than science.

What crop are you intending to put it on?

It's not 25 degrees out there, it's what 15 at the minute and cool at night. Chance of some rain or serious dew as well- what you lose now as ammonia will be the same whether you did it today or on the 30th of September and cultivated it in two days later.

There is some readily available N in poultry muck as it contains uric acid, but this isn't the only source of N in muck. Like all sources of nutrients, there will be a proportion of the N,P and K in forms which are not yet available to plants and not even water soluble (yet). These reside in the soil and get broken down by the soil life over time. you apply that muck today and it is true some nutrients will be available to the crop very soon, probably in the next rains when they enter the soil moisture profile. Others will be ready to feed the next crop over the coming winter or into next spring. Others might not be fully broken down until next summer or beyond. This is why people see the benefits of manure and other materials in other years even when they aren't blanketing every field every year. When you see Silverfox's crops they look great because they have their feet in a pool of available nutrients virtually all year round. This helps with establishment, rooting and over winter survival even when they haven't seen an application of anything in months.

As you say it is a bit of an artform, I've never had much experience of turkey litter, you will get a feeling for what your application is worth in N terms over time. Not all sources are the same either unfortunately. There is, for example, a difference between broiler and layer litters. I used to think a heavy drashing of cow slurry was worth at least 50 units of N. 4 tonnes an acre of broiler litter would be worth around 100 I think but other people might disagree.

 

[Renaultman]

What crop are you intending to put it on?

It's not 25 degrees out there, it's what 15 at the minute and cool at night. Chance of some rain or serious dew as well- what you lose now as ammonia will be the same whether you did it today or on the 30th of September and cultivated it in two days later.

There is some readily available N in poultry muck as it contains uric acid, but this isn't the only source of N in muck. Like all sources of nutrients, there will be a proportion of the N,P and K in forms which are not yet available to plants and not even water soluble (yet). These reside in the soil and get broken down by the soil life over time. you apply that muck today and it is true some nutrients will be available to the crop very soon, probably in the next rains when they enter the soil moisture profile. Others will be ready to feed the next crop over the coming winter or into next spring. Others might not be fully broken down until next summer or beyond. This is why people see the benefits of manure and other materials in other years even when they aren't blanketing every field every year. When you see Silverfox's crops they look great because they have their feet in a pool of available nutrients virtually all year round. This helps with establishment, rooting and over winter survival even when they haven't seen an application of anything in months.

As you say it is a bit of an artform, I've never had much experience of turkey litter, you will get a feeling for what your application is worth in N terms over time. Not all sources are the same either unfortunately. There is, for example, a difference between broiler and layer litters. I used to think a heavy drashing of cow slurry was worth at least 50 units of N. 4 tonnes an acre of broiler litter would be worth around 100 I think but other people might disagree.

Wheat. I will be nowhere near 4t, thinking nearer 1t. Definitely going to have a go, of the weather stays dry enough to travel, as will have to go at 12m

 

[Foxcover]

Have put quite a bit of chicken muck through HBD Bunnings and also through a Joskin with discs. You’re doing well if you can hit 24m in growing crops and not get striping.
Even in autumn we would run at 12m and double overlap.

 

[CPF]

I’m a little bit late to the party .
I cannot understand why you’re not getting 24 m spread we was getting this in early 2000 .Even straight out the shed . At our peak Before we got bought out ,we moving close to 200,000 tonnes a year all when to land to spread .
average selling price was £16 t delivered and £4 for spreading.
back in 2014.

 

[Chickcatcher]

I’m a little bit late to the party .
I cannot understand why you’re not getting 24 m spread we was getting this in early 2000 .Even straight out the shed . At our peak Before we got bought out ,we moving close to 200,000 tonnes a year all when to land to spread .
average selling price was £16 t delivered and £4 for spreading.
back in 2014.

What spreader were you using? The contractor we use is on the dogs do dahs spreader yes it may spread 24 Mtrs but not getting the overlaps to make the spread even.

 

[CPF]

What spreader were you using? The contractor we use is on the dogs do dahs spreader yes it may spread 24 Mtrs but not getting the overlaps to make the spread even.

What spreader is he using I’m interested to now?

 

[Foxcover]

What spreader is he using I’m interested to now?

He asked you first!!

 

[CPF]

He asked you first!!

I’ve just realised it would be unfair for me to tell the world how to get poultry muck 24 m plus Spread pattern .
Because I’ll be letting down the contractors who took over my business as they are spreading at 24 m without any problems and I know all their customers are happy with what they’re doing without having any stripes .

 

[Salopian_Will]

I’ve just realised it would be unfair for me to tell the world how to get poultry muck 24 m plus Spread pattern .
Because I’ll be letting down the contractors who took over my business as they are spreading at 24 m without any problems and I know all their customers are happy with what they’re doing without having any stripes .

If must be valuable if you now have a bugatti, as in your Avatar and as I cannot think of any Bugatti owning contractors around here I think you must be way off patch! Happy to receive the wisdom via PM .

 

[chickens and wheat]

A local contractor claims 24m spread with a strautmann, never seen the results myself.
It is a decent spreader,he does our stubbles but not at 24m

 

[chickens and wheat]

I’ve just realised it would be unfair for me to tell the world how to get poultry muck 24 m plus Spread pattern .
Because I’ll be letting down the contractors who took over my business as they are spreading at 24 m without any problems and I know all their customers are happy with what they’re doing without having any stripes .

Surely all his rivals need do is look over a hedge ,hardly industrial espionage