China going to wet drought area

[daveydiesel1]

Seen a tiktok today that china is planning to build a water diversion to bring fresh water to a drought stricken area to turn it into 17 million acres of good farmland, surely this will totally destroy milk,beef etc price if they do this

 

[Adeptandy]

Afraid it’s possible, it’s just the sort of thing they do. Europe will import it, screw our own industry and then dance to Chinas tune when it’s too late.

 

[kiwi pom]

Good on them, investing in their own infrastructure, they have rather a lot of people to feed.
A very quick Goggle suggest they already have about 70 million hectares with irrigation.

 

[quattro]

Seen a tiktok today that china is planning to build a water diversion to bring fresh water to a drought stricken area to turn it into 17 million acres of good farmland, surely this will totally destroy milk,beef etc price if they do this

Saw a video a few years ago where they were building a massive pipelines from one end of china to the other
To irrigate farmland
Mostly done by hand

 

[daveydiesel1]

Its not even the buyin in thats the problem, even thry use it all in home consumption china is a big player of buying surplus milk that helps keep some sort of bottom in the market and if that goes what happens then. Were competing with other countries that has more effiecient systems and more favourable weather conditions. Im on a 7 month winter with cows in co antrim whereas even in co cork that could be 3-4 month winter housed period, it doesnt take a genius to work out thats a whole lot more cost in silage,slurry,equipment etc so how do we compete

 

[copse]

Seen a tiktok today that china is planning to build a water diversion to bring fresh water to a drought stricken area to turn it into 17 million acres of good farmland, surely this will totally destroy milk,beef etc price if they do this

They would need a hell of a lot of water to irrigate that many acres.

 

[dogglercowman1]

The South to North water diversion project was first thought of in the 1950's and started 20 years ago....its going to take another20 years to completely finish it.....there will be more chinese to feed by then and more people to feed all over the world.....so i for one am not going to worry about it..

 

[daveydiesel1]

They would need a hell of a lot of water to irrigate that many acres.

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[ollie989898]

If it was possible I would suggest they would be already doing it.

Much of China is mountainous or at risk of extreme erosion- to the point that they planted trees over huge areas I seem to recall.

 

[spin cycle]

they're loosing a lot of land to the desert

 

[ollie989898]

they're loosing a lot of land to the desert

Yes, because of old school practices that were daft.

 

[daveydiesel1]

The South to North water diversion project was first thought of in the 1950's and started 20 years ago....its going to take another20 years to completely finish it.....there will be more chinese to feed by then and more people to feed all over the world.....so i for one am not going to worry about it..

Does china not limit the amount of children families can have

 

[spin cycle]

Does china not limit the amount of children families can have

not anymore...in fact the opposite i believe so worried they are about an aging demographic

 

[Lamb's Orchard]

Chinese population decreasing quite rapidly due to very low birth rate.

 

[kiwi pom]

Its not even the buyin in thats the problem, even thry use it all in home consumption china is a big player of buying surplus milk that helps keep some sort of bottom in the market and if that goes what happens then. Were competing with other countries that has more effiecient systems and more favourable weather conditions. Im on a 7 month winter with cows in co antrim whereas even in co cork that could be 3-4 month winter housed period, it doesnt take a genius to work out thats a whole lot more cost in silage,slurry,equipment etc so how do we compete

Perhaps you can't, lots of grazing systems in Ireland nowadays isn't there?
I don't know how their COP stacks up against yours but at the end of the day those who can do it cheaper will keep going.
Perhaps a high input high output herd, permanently housed with 12 litre cows stacks up against a block grazing herd?
I think it's those with a foot in both camps that struggle a bit as they get stuck in no mans land.

 

[M-J-G]

The Chinese wouldn't ever try to impress the world through propaganda.

Even if it is true, I doubt it will make much difference considering that equates to less than 0.4% of the worlds cropping land, assuming it's all capable of producing crop.
17 million acres is kinda dwarved by the fact that the planet has close to half a billion more green acres than it had in the year 2000.

China and India have planted more trees in the past few years than the rest of the world combined, so I'm guessing they'll add to that as well as farmland.

 

[MF CI]

Tried that in Russia and ended up with the Aral sea, the sea with no water.
Tried drilling down for water in Saudi Arabia, ended up drawing water up so hot they had to hold it in tanks to cool before using, also took water from neighbouring countries rivers which they weren't happy about.
It's a hard fight fighting nature.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

The South to North water diversion project was first thought of in the 1950's and started 20 years ago....its going to take another20 years to completely finish it.....there will be more chinese to feed by then and more people to feed all over the world.....so i for one am not going to worry about it..

China has reached peak population and is now contracting.

 

[Chae1]

The same people that gave us COVID.

 

[Lakes Nash]

might drop world sea levels, maybe able to get on the land then!,