Pumpkin18
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RAU does offer it but very few students opt for the year.
Cirencester to attract clever, urban people from a range of ethnic backgrounds in to farming?
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RAU does offer it but very few students opt for the year.
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It's not built into the course like Harper. So any student at RAU who opts for it is effectively dropping back a year.
Pumpkin18
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It’s not really “dropping back a year” as such, if so then you could argue that all the Harper students have dropped back a year compared to the RAU students
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No. Harper is a 4 year course. The 2016 cohort will graduate 2021.
RAU is a 3 year course. The 2016 cohort will graduate 2020, except Jonny who did a year's placement, who will graduate 2021. See how it now appears that Jonny has dropped back a year compared with his cohort?
Pumpkin18
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Hmm a 4 year course starting in sept 2016 would graduate in July/October 2020, no?
The point I’m getting at is that it’s not that he dropped back a year, it’s that he chose take advantage of the opportunity and do a full year in industry. Yes he will graduate a year later than his cohort but he will also have a year in industry to show for it.
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You are correct. Neither my wife or I can work a calendar, it's how we ended up with our son.
True. But do not underestimate the social effects of effectively being s year behind his peers on return to Uni.
I believe the course would be much strengthened by having a full sandwich year.
The year in industry will prove much more valuable to the student and first employer when they graduate. It's why Harper has such high regard across the industry for its graduates. When it comes to employment opportunities it really is the top drawer
Unless of course your only ambition is to work for Savills
in that case you will have to settle for a pair of pink trousers and three years at RAU 
Princess Pooper
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Well as someone who came from a non-farming background I'd better never say anything about farming again then.More folk from non farming backgrounds getting a degree, thinking they know it all and ending up in non farming jobs employed for their knowledge of farming.
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Princess Pooper
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I did my pre-college year with another 18 yo female who was going to Cirencester (she was from the middle of London with, like me, no experience prior to her pre-college placement). She would have started RAC in Sept 1985.
This was 1980/81 when RAC was still in the dark ages
I think it makes your eyes water ,so i'm told
Hartpury only do a full yr sandwich, on the basis that their students are actually employable, not a degree course though.
Tarw Coch
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Sorry, just being cynical but I have come across several folk educated to degree level yet lack in common sense/understanding the basics. The idea of trying to attract students from a diverse background into Ag and related careers doesn't sit right with me, too Iikely to get those with unrealistic expectations of what farming is about. I see it with vets, watch the programmes on TV, go to college, get qualified yet are completely useless.
Not that being from a non Ag background should be a barrier to anyone being involved in Ag or related industries, those with a real interest will do alright/well I'm sure.
Not sure how you should phrase it, how do you attract the "right" people to the industry? I'm not convinced colleges should be targeting students from urban/ethnic backgrounds, but background shouldn't make a difference to those who really want to be involved in the industry. Good luck to those with the drive, enthusiasm and passion to succeed.
The last time a group of RAC students came to us, half were interested and you could tell would be really good, and the other half totally disconnected with almost anything but just like any other group of young. They all bar 1 drove newer cars than I had, and to be fair the lecturer fair set about them for all coming in their own cars, never had so much money sat in the yard.
but just like any other group of young. They all bar 1 drove newer cars than I had, and to be fair the lecturer fair set about them for all coming in their own cars, never had so much money sat in the yard.
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Hartpury do a foundation degree that can then be compleated at another uni as a full degree. My understanding is that the plan is to provide a full degree in time. Had a student here a few years back who was doing the hartpury foundation he was very good. They did offer bg junior a place on the foundation but he decided it was not for him.
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Wow. I can hardly believe what Ive just seen. What a blinkered and shortsighted attitude. Maybe people from different backgrounds have different ideas.
Or is agriculture going to carry on doing what Grandad did because thats how its always been done until the bitter end? The world is changing.... no point being left behind.
Tarw Coch
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No, agriculture as any industry is constantly changing and always will.
As I said, good luck to those with the drive, enthusiasm and passion to succeed.
Folk from different backgrounds may well have different ideas, that doesn't necessarily mean they are good ideas.
As I said, good luck to those with the drive, enthusiasm and passion to succeed.
Folk from different backgrounds may well have different ideas, that doesn't necessarily mean they are good ideas.
Who decides what is a good idea and what is a bad idea?
At some point, electricity, flying, 'horseless carriages', solar power, etc were all bad ideas. More recently many people thought Elton Mursk was crazy, yet Tesla cars are now seen as part of the future and his reusable rockets are proving surprisingly reliable.
What im saying is that left field thinking and ideas are often discounted because people are stuck in their ways. Agriculture is more guilty than most industries for this.
At some point, electricity, flying, 'horseless carriages', solar power, etc were all bad ideas. More recently many people thought Elton Mursk was crazy, yet Tesla cars are now seen as part of the future and his reusable rockets are proving surprisingly reliable.
What im saying is that left field thinking and ideas are often discounted because people are stuck in their ways. Agriculture is more guilty than most industries for this.
Cowabunga
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Been there lately? All the halls of residence have been bulldozed now for a number of years. They were only built in the 1970's for goodness' sake. WAC is sadly no more and I'm not at all sure whether there's a librarianship college. Are there many librarian jobs left in these computerised days.
Maybe not.