Clarkson knows the score!

Clarkson seems to echo a lot of what ive been saying about farming the last 5 years, its good to know there are some straight talking logical thinkers out there!
 

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andybk

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The interesting thing with clarkson, is he is from outside the industry and it didnt take long for an unexperienced eye like his to see all thats wrong with the job , maybe the ones that make policy in defra should be forced to work on a farm for at least a year before they can make any kind of ruling, too many degree holding know-it-alls and others with vested interests having too much sway , all went wrong when ADAS went
 
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Steevo

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The interesting thing with clarkson, is he is from outside the industry and i didnt take long for an unexperienced eye like his to see all thats wrong with the job , maybe the ones that make policy in defra should be forced to work on a farm for at least a year before they can make any kind of ruling, too many degree holding know-it-alls and others with vested interests having too much sway , all went wrong when ADAS went

Agreed.

I’m a big Clarkson farm, but my only gripe with him is that occasionally he takes personal gripes (like being denied his planning) and tries to align other farmers alongside his issue and normalise his more radical ideas. i.e saying other farmers are facing similar issues that he is.
 
I really like Jezza, but I'm not sure that he is the hero of British farming that people want him to be.

Diddly Squat is what it is.. a tourist attraction. I can't see many locals nipping down for their food shop or to get a 12 pack of shady for £36. Fair play to what they have achieved but selling candles for 2 score isn't a business model most of laymans want or even can achieve without a massive media following.

It is great to see someone with a great vocal outlet using it to promote farming to the public, just not sure how high up the list trapping crayfish is to the everyday farmer like you and I.

I know nothing about crayfish or even the licensing but I do believe the EA have some very real concerns about introducing an invasive species which I do believe the tweets are really aimed at.
 

Steevo

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I really like Jezza, but I'm not sure that he is the hero of British farming that people want him to be.

Diddly Squat is what it is.. a tourist attraction. I can't see many locals nipping down for their food shop or to get a 12 pack of shady for £36. Fair play to what they have achieved but selling candles for 2 score isn't a business model most of laymans want or even can achieve without a massive media following.

It is great to see someone with a great vocal outlet using it to promote farming to the public, just not sure how high up the list trapping crayfish is to the everyday farmer like you and I.

I know nothing about crayfish or even the licensing but I do believe the EA have some very real concerns about introducing an invasive species which I do believe the tweets are really aimed at.

You have summed up my perspective perfectly.

If he cares as much about farming as he seems to, he could champion farming much more than he does if he didn't try and exploit it for his own ends in the process.

The moral arguments fall down when there is personal gain attached that is not representative of farming in general.
 

Boysground

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Wiltshire
I really like Jezza, but I'm not sure that he is the hero of British farming that people want him to be.

Diddly Squat is what it is.. a tourist attraction. I can't see many locals nipping down for their food shop or to get a 12 pack of shady for £36. Fair play to what they have achieved but selling candles for 2 score isn't a business model most of laymans want or even can achieve without a massive media following.

It is great to see someone with a great vocal outlet using it to promote farming to the public, just not sure how high up the list trapping crayfish is to the everyday farmer like you and I.

I know nothing about crayfish or even the licensing but I do believe the EA have some very real concerns about introducing an invasive species which I do believe the tweets are really aimed at.

This guy was caught trying to get into my friends pond, it’s very close to the river he came from.

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Not that I know Jeremy’s point of view on crayfish. Certainly they cause problems in the river

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Ffermer Bach

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I really like Jezza, but I'm not sure that he is the hero of British farming that people want him to be.

Diddly Squat is what it is.. a tourist attraction. I can't see many locals nipping down for their food shop or to get a 12 pack of shady for £36. Fair play to what they have achieved but selling candles for 2 score isn't a business model most of laymans want or even can achieve without a massive media following.

It is great to see someone with a great vocal outlet using it to promote farming to the public, just not sure how high up the list trapping crayfish is to the everyday farmer like you and I.

I know nothing about crayfish or even the licensing but I do believe the EA have some very real concerns about introducing an invasive species which I do believe the tweets are really aimed at.
I have a feeling the invasive species is already here
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
The interesting thing with clarkson, is he is from outside the industry and i didnt take long for an unexperienced eye like his to see all thats wrong with the job , maybe the ones that make policy in defra should be forced to work on a farm for at least a year before they can make any kind of ruling, too many degree holding know-it-alls and others with vested interests having too much sway , all went wrong when ADAS went

From what I remember of them, most of the ADAS advisers were 'degree holding know-it-alls', with precious little practical knowledge.
 
I have a feeling the invasive species is already here

One report says he is planning to catch crayfish that are already in his ponds but other reports state that he built the ponds with the intention of catching wild crayfish whilst another report says he build the ponds with the intention of introducing his own crayfish.
So It all seems to centre around crayfish nevertheless.

I never actually knew that they were a problem over here in NI until I had a google.. every day is a school day.
 

andybk

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Mendips Somerset
From what I remember of them, most of the ADAS advisers were 'degree holding know-it-alls', with precious little practical knowledge.
I have a tame ex adas hi up as a neighbour , whilst having a chat one evening has said all various adas people were in one building , if the chap down the hall didnt quite grasp a subject he could tap on the door of someone who he knew, that did , the problem now is people are too spread out the huge department defra has become , a question via email might end up with yet another greenhorn working above his paygrade
 

Hampton

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Shropshire
You have summed up my perspective perfectly.

If he cares as much about farming as he seems to, he could champion farming much more than he does if he didn't try and exploit it for his own ends in the process.

The moral arguments fall down when there is personal gain attached that is not representative of farming in general.
I’m not sure I agree.
What he’s basically saying is that farming in itself isn’t profitable, so you need to diversify. But, diversification has huge amounts of obstacles in front of it.
How many of us have tried to diversify but hit a stumbling block.
His problems are many of ours, just on steroids
 

Steevo

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Gloucestershire
I’m not sure I agree.
What he’s basically saying is that farming in itself isn’t profitable, so you need to diversify. But, diversification has huge amounts of obstacles in front of it.
How many of us have tried to diversify but hit a stumbling block.
His problems are many of ours, just on steroids

That’s fair.

Yet because his problems are on steroids, they are less palatable than for a farmer who really needs a diversification on a smaller and less community obtrusive to survive.

Clarkson seeks to drive a coach and horses through the regulation, which is half of the reason the regulations were made in the first place, albeit more reasonably than they have evolved to today.

The “sheep shed” built for agricultural use under permitted development away from the farmstead but next to the farm shop….and then within 2 years seeking planning for change of use because the sheep have gone is another example of gaming the system.
 

alomy75

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The interesting thing with clarkson, is he is from outside the industry and it didnt take long for an unexperienced eye like his to see all thats wrong with the job , maybe the ones that make policy in defra should be forced to work on a farm for at least a year before they can make any kind of ruling, too many degree holding know-it-alls and others with vested interests having too much sway , all went wrong when ADAS went
Where has ADAS gone?
 

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