Class quad baling charge

when we baled the failed sorghum earlier this year, it was $25 / bale, plus fuel
I thought that was ok
fairly low yield, about 207 bales off 90 ha
there aren't many balers around here anyway . . .

but yeah, the contractor HAS to make money out of doing it. No one would do it they weren't . . .
Neighbour used to say there's no point in doing a job if there is no profit in it, if others want to do it at or below cost, then good luck to them because they won't be in business for long.???
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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I reckon it would be fair to say that our straw crops are a lot thicker than yours = more bales per acre & more importantly more bales per hour.
For a while our contractors charge has worked out at about £10/ton
Um, I bale proper hay. Nice thick clover and ryegrass pasture. Irrigated lucerne, 9 bale to the ha cereal crops with 600kg bale weight from a standard packer. My own oat crop went 15 bales to the ha this year. Around 60 4x3s an hour . And I still dont see your point. These machines can be expensive to keep as they age and the more bales you put through them brings them closer to the magical rebuild figure or trade in figure.
As @kiwi pom said. Subsidized by subsidies......
 
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ARW

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Yorkshire
I personally don’t think it’s to much, if you think it’s to much then buy your own big baker and see the running costs.
You could possibly find someone cheaper but by how much? 10 pence a bale? 20 pence a bale?
If they are good bales that weigh plenty and it’s a good service then it’s cheap, if they are light crap bales with a string missing then it’s expensive
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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I personally don’t think it’s to much, if you think it’s to much then buy your own big baker and see the running costs.
You could possibly find someone cheaper but by how much? 10 pence a bale? 20 pence a bale?
If they are good bales that weigh plenty and it’s a good service then it’s cheap, if they are light crap bales with a string missing then it’s expensive
X2 if I could get them baled for £5 ($10) there is no way in hell I would have a $200k machine sitting in my shed.
String and fuel alone costs about $2/ bale. Then theres labor, say $1 to 3/ bale, if it needs acid theres minimum another $2.50 / bale...cost of repayments.......
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
When I had 7-800acre Of straw to do a year I’d pay contractors £10/t. It was fair on whatever size/shape baler turned up. 4 different round balers and 3 different big squares depending what the purchasing farmer wanted. That is without diesel, a 220kg round bale is around 35p/bale in diesel.
 

Mc115reed

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How many belong to a stand alone contracting company and how many are also farmers?
This forums full of contractors saying they have to do the job for nothing to get the work! Umm how about doing something else then?

All contractors were the only farmer/contractors running balers in the area really...

You wouldn’t have much to do if you charged £5 a bale round here for a 120x70 bales when everybody else in the area is on £3.50.. the market isn’t getting any better either always somebody else buying a baler or a forager or a pumping kit thinking they’ll give it a go for a bit cheaper.... we’re one of the most expensive in the area
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Guess the problem is the extra capacity over just doing your own doesn't cost much.

For example we've been looking at buying a roller mill. A korte 700 would have done fine doing about 500t at year, but a used 1600 superior came up at right money which is way over capacity. So if jobs come up we'll go out contracting with it.

Won't be undercutting everyone else to get work, but its there if opportunity arises.
 

Andrew

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Location
Huntingdon, UK
£5 for a quad isn’t that far off the money really.
You may get someone cheaper but they probably will put less in them, or turn up when it starts raining etc etc.


How much is a new big block baler? 50k ? Tractor big enough to pull it? 100k?
Then diesel, string, grease, parts, and man hours...then do it all for a fiver a bale...only in farming would this happen

More like £120k for a baler and £160k for the tractor
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
More like £120k for a baler and £160k for the tractor
Doesn't matter what it costs to buy it's the running cost and depreciation.

If you hire a tractor and baler for the season you know roughly how may bales you will do and that's the cost plus diesel, twine etc.

What the machine cost to buy is immaterial as it will have a residual value.
 
Doesn't matter what it costs to buy it's the running cost and depreciation.

If you hire a tractor and baler for the season you know roughly how may bales you will do and that's the cost plus diesel, twine etc.

What the machine cost to buy is immaterial as it will have a residual value.
What do you think the hire company basis it’s hire charge on???
 

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